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my understanding was the fact that stobart didnt offer jet services whilst BMI did was a key point in the PSO offering. The scoring was circa 86% BMI and 58% stobart from memory
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Not forgetting that the RCA group also now owns Bournemouth too, which currently doesn't have Flybe either. Could there be a bigger deal on the cards to use both CODA and BOH??
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FlyBe profit warning
FlyBe have issued a profit warning but I don't think it will have any impact on the speculated route developments at LDY since despite the profit warning the loses are down from last year.
FlyBe have issued a profit warning but I don't think it will have any impact on the speculated route developments at LDY since despite the profit warning the loses are down from last year.
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FlyBe profit warning
FlyBe have issued a profit warning but I don't think it will have any impact on the speculated route developments at LDY since despite the profit warning the loses are down from last year.
FlyBe have issued a profit warning but I don't think it will have any impact on the speculated route developments at LDY since despite the profit warning the loses are down from last year.
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The profit warning seems to be because the previously predicted loss of £9 million which was stated in June now looks like it will be £12 million. This might matter to the dividend that shareholders will receive, hence the share price dive, but it won't affect the company so long as they maintain solvency particularly since losses last year were £20 million. So at least profitability is heading in the right direction.
Company accounts are a bit complicated, Flybe's losses this year being adjusted because of a £10 million "windfall" from exiting from an "onerous lease" and suffering a one off hit from a new IT system, but in general they need to cut loss making routes and replace them with profitable routes. The good news for LDY is that they have no loss making routes to cut. The question is whether FlyBe calculate that any new routes from LDY would be profitable.
While things might look better if FlyBe hadn't issued a profit warning and if they were making a profit, it shouldn't matter to FlyBe operating out of LDY since they do have to change something to make a profit. More of the same isn't an option.
Company accounts are a bit complicated, Flybe's losses this year being adjusted because of a £10 million "windfall" from exiting from an "onerous lease" and suffering a one off hit from a new IT system, but in general they need to cut loss making routes and replace them with profitable routes. The good news for LDY is that they have no loss making routes to cut. The question is whether FlyBe calculate that any new routes from LDY would be profitable.
While things might look better if FlyBe hadn't issued a profit warning and if they were making a profit, it shouldn't matter to FlyBe operating out of LDY since they do have to change something to make a profit. More of the same isn't an option.
Not a lot of luck at LDY with the FR GLA flight. Significant delays seem to have plagued this over recent weeks. Yesterday’s was delayed by about four hours, today’s by two. Unusual for FR.
All quiet on the BE rumours, and with chat on the BE thread that they’re in the soup, one wonders the veracity of rumours linking them with LDY.
All quiet on the BE rumours, and with chat on the BE thread that they’re in the soup, one wonders the veracity of rumours linking them with LDY.
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Not a lot of luck at LDY with the FR GLA flight. Significant delays seem to have plagued this over recent weeks. Yesterday’s was delayed by about four hours, today’s by two. Unusual for FR.
All quiet on the BE rumours, and with chat on the BE thread that they’re in the soup, one wonders the veracity of rumours linking them with LDY.
All quiet on the BE rumours, and with chat on the BE thread that they’re in the soup, one wonders the veracity of rumours linking them with LDY.
I’m still a little worried that FR have still to load EDI for summer 19 as well.
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The Flybe suits are due back end of next week from what I understand, but as you say they are in the soup so this may have changed the game slightly. The timescale of money distribution is the only stumbling block for them at the moment I’m told. I know nothing more after that.
I’m still a little worried that FR have still to load EDI for summer 19 as well.
They haven’t loaded any of the routes that were moved from GLA so they have time to evaluate.
I do find the other stuff on this thread to be very far-fetched...
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Then I stand corrected. Last time I checked they hadn't. I wouldn't say far fetched. Many of the rumours in the past have came true. Until the local Council strips back funding or Stormont Collapses.
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True, but the one thing BMI lack is potential of future with based A/C in the mainland. That, BEE have. Q400s are not even that far behind the ERJ (speed-wise) when compared to the ATRs which is what was in the running for it previously with STK. BMR's punctuality and reliability has also been deplorable at times during their tenure, although for the past while it has been better. If BEE were in for the running it would be hard to turn down a well well established and respected airline in the NI market, and one who I would see as a great future partner in other routes (providing they find themselves in a more stable situation.)
No sign of LDY-EDI on the FR website for sale in the summer. Has it gone
Hmmmm. Found out earlier today before getting home from a run to Belfast that I needed to get to the northwest of England either today or Monday. Checked and unfortunately for me LDY-LPL is sold out both days. A bugger for me with respect to convenience, but great to see. A demand for MAN should be easily sated by a twice daily BMIR. We can hope!
Also I hope the LM to GLA and FR to EDI both go well later.
Also I hope the LM to GLA and FR to EDI both go well later.
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Hmmmm. Found out earlier today before getting home from a run to Belfast that I needed to get to the northwest of England either today or Monday. Checked and unfortunately for me LDY-LPL is sold out both days. A bugger for me with respect to convenience, but great to see. A demand for MAN should be easily sated by a twice daily BMIR. We can hope!
Also I hope the LM to GLA and FR to EDI both go well later.
Also I hope the LM to GLA and FR to EDI both go well later.