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scodaman 22nd Sep 2017 19:17

Derry/Londonderry 2
 
City of Derry in news again.

https://www.derrynow.com/news/money-...ed-back/186001

conorc123 27th Sep 2017 19:59

Anyways... Ryanair grounds Belfast flights for four months - BBC News Good reason for BMI to start a third rotation?

I flew BMI on friday to STN. Great flight, only one cabin attendant but very friendly, and free drink. Counted 40 of the 49 seats full. Feel if BMI can sort out the price of the seats booked within 2 weeks of departure and weekend prices they could see 90+% load factors

canberra97 27th Sep 2017 20:10

STN rather than STD.

conorc123 27th Sep 2017 20:21

Why Thank you :ok:

scodaman 27th Sep 2017 20:26

I reckon that if Flybmi leased a 737 and got the pricing right they would fill the 2 flights a day on the Derry - STN route.

canberra97 27th Sep 2017 20:29

Which they won't do especially considering it's a PSO route.

scodaman 28th Sep 2017 09:33

Does anyone know if the particulars of the PSO contract limit the size of aircraft that can be used?

speedbirdATC 28th Sep 2017 10:21

There is no aircraft size limit, as bmi themselves have used larger aircraft on the route at times when the E145 is not available.

owenc 28th Sep 2017 10:24

What aircraft would that be?

southside bobby 28th Sep 2017 10:46

ERJ170-100..

richardnei 28th Sep 2017 11:19

I've heard that BMI Regional have been looking to up size in the regional aircraft market. E170/175, E190/195, SSJ have all been looked as possible additions to the fleet.

We're only talking a few aircraft and nothing bigger. BMI Regional operate in very niche markets. I'd say E170/175 are more likely as would be more compatible with the existing fleet.

conorc123 11th Oct 2017 17:10

Delay in £7m funding for City of Derry airport - BBC News Anyone any idea how this 2.5 mil for route development would be spent? Would it be similar to the PSO where a carrier gets thrown wonga to operate a route for 2 years then pull out?

scodaman 3rd Dec 2017 18:06

Any word on how the one-off Seville Trip in March 2018 is selling?

https://www.derryjournal.com/news/bu...ched-1-8226220

mart901 20th Dec 2017 04:57

https://nitravelnews.com/news/super-...thern-ireland/

speedbirdATC 3rd Jan 2018 10:11

Looks like FR have increased the LDY- LPL service to 3 x weekly across the summer schedule. Still a dismal frequency for this flight which should be daily, if not double daily on some days.

Fly757X 6th Jan 2018 13:01

Really Dismal, was spotting at LDY yesterday and if it wasn't for a LJ35 my time wouldn't have been worthwhile. A good direction would maybe be Flybe through their franchise with Stobart, maybe a based E195 to operate BHX/MAN etc. Just my opinion.

A320.b744 6th Jan 2018 22:29

I don't think that Ryanair is suited to operate domestic services from LDY. Clearly the demand isn't there for substantial B738 operations, but I do think that Flybe could make some routes work. Daily Q400 services to BHX, GLA, LCY, LPL, MAN would be beneficial to the business community, though Flybe wouldn't want to dilute their passenger numbers from BHD. I can't see the E195 being used - it's simply too big for the market - and given Flybe's financial situation, a base at LDY would be very unlikely.

BHD2BFS 7th Jan 2018 14:22

If my memory is correct Aer Arran tried to launch 2 or 3 routes maybe 5 years ago from Derry and the routes where scrapped before they even took off so they must have seen there wasn’t demand for a regional airline operating regularly all day. Flybe also tried MAN and that didn’t last either.
What LDY needs is local tour operators pushing for more charter flights in the summer and winter where the loads are guaranteed

Fly757X 7th Jan 2018 14:33

Load factors tend to be very good actually. Frequencies have increased again to LPL for the summer and even after they scraped the STN and FAO route they said they were still here for the long run. Another thing is that the FAO flights are not bookable from BFS this year. No announcement but interesting.

cuthere 7th Jan 2018 14:36

Loads have always been good to LPL and GLA. Yield is another thing, but with some of the prices I’ve seen as well as short sectors, I’m sure FR are doing alright out of the pair.

FAO always did well too, and I was surprised when they binned it.


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