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Old 13th Jun 2020, 17:53
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Have heard murmurs of a rumour that Stobart will be taking over LCY BHD after the BE collapse. Again it was only the mearest whispers of a rumour
ACL have this week published there LCY initial slot allocation report for W20/21 schedule. The report contains details of all new slot application and which of those have been granted. There is nothing in the report about Stobart applying for slots at LCY.

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Old 13th Jun 2020, 17:55
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But there is an application for BHD-LGW
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 18:04
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Unless I'm mistaken - often am - 72 isn't approved in to LCY and Stobart only has one 42 if I recall correctly. If the E jets are going, there's no scope in Stobart to fly in to LCY.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 18:08
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
Unless I'm mistaken - often am - 72 isn't approved in to LCY and Stobart only has one 42 if I recall correctly. If the E jets are going, there's no scope in Stobart to fly in to LCY.
BCI/AUR have both used the ATR-72 into LCY in the past.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 18:14
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According to Flight Global.....ATR has secured approval for its ATR 72 turboprop to operate to London City Airport.

The approval followed trials at the airport conducted on 30 January. (2009)
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 18:30
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
But there is an application for BHD-LGW
The ACL report does confirm that Stobart did apply for at LGW for a up to 20 x weekly (40 slots) service to BHD. However they have only been allocated 2 of the 40 slots they initially applies for.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 23:35
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I can't see the logic of Stobart of wanting BHD LGW slots unless they were talking to Aer Lingus about operating it as EI franchise by Embraer, obviously before these airctaft were earmarked for withdrawl..
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 11:49
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Did Stobart every do anything with Eastern or Loganair? I suppose applying doesn't meant intent I suppose.
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Old 15th Jun 2020, 17:40
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I wonder if this is something to do with Eastern Airways Seven new routes that was announced in March.
But held back until the end of peak of Covid -19.
Only one route is known so far is announced route for Southampton to Dublin.
Quite sure the other 6 routes are from Belfast City.
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Old 15th Jun 2020, 18:09
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Originally Posted by allan1987 View Post
I wonder if this is something to do with Eastern Airways Seven new routes that was announced in March.
But held back until the end of peak of Covid -19.
Only one route is known so far is announced route for Southampton to Dublin.
Quite sure the other 6 routes are from Belfast City.
Two other routes have since been announced:
Teesside - Newquay
Leeds - Newquay

It is likely Southampton and Belfast will have more new routes though
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Old 15th Jun 2020, 18:42
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LGW seems to be one going by the ACL data, if i was forced to place a bet on others I would say LCY and MAN as strong contenders with possibly EDI or MAN as thd others but in covid times Timbuktu is as likey!
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 06:46
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Originally Posted by ericlday View Post
According to Flight Global.....ATR has secured approval for its ATR 72 turboprop to operate to London City Airport.

The approval followed trials at the airport conducted on 30 January. (2009)
I believe it was actually Aer Arann , Stobart predecessor, that got the ATR72 certified for LCY ops. They used to fly LCY-IOM.
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 15:55
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I am surprised that no one has reported this or have l missed it?
The closure of Stobart Air’s base at Southend airport with the loss of 66 jobs has been described as a “bitter blow”.
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 16:08
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Interestingly Stobart have applied for an additional 1,144 movement slots at Manchester for the W20 period.

I doubt that all of them will be needed.
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 16:36
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Originally Posted by Scottie Dog View Post
Interestingly Stobart have applied for an additional 1,144 movement slots at Manchester for the W20 period.

I doubt that all of them will be needed.

Most likely to be Belfast-City, if you look at the LGW. Stobart were granted slots to operate to BHD and so wouldn’t be surprised if there for the same reason here at MAN.
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Old 16th Jun 2020, 16:49
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Originally Posted by flyerguy View Post
Most likely to be Belfast-City, if you look at the LGW. Stobart were granted slots to operate to BHD and so wouldn’t be surprised if there for the same reason here at MAN.
Slots been granted to Stobart for Winter 20 at LGW, BHX, MAN and EDI which are likely for Belfast City
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 07:55
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"Stobart Air was only saved to prevent group collapse - MD"

The Irish Independent reports (my emphasis):
Dublin-based Stobart Air, which operates the Aer Lingus Regional service, was only saved from receivership by the UK's Stobart Group to prevent the group itself from collapsing, the managing director of the Irish airline has confirmed.

In an internal Stobart Air memo seen by the Irish Independent which details minutes of a crisis meeting held two weeks ago, managing director Andy Jolly also said that Stobart Group has no intention of owning Stobart Air in the long term and won't bankroll an expansion the carrier had planned at Belfast and the Isle of Man.

The current contract Stobart Air has with Aer Lingus expires at the end of 2022.
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 11:27
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post
"Stobart Air was only saved to prevent group collapse - MD"

The Irish Independent reports (my emphasis):
I have heard that Stobart Air has applied for slots from Belfast City to BHX, MAN, EDI and LGW, if Stobart is not putting money towards this
they must be getting money from one of three places to run these either from NI Executive, Cyrus Capital or IAG
https://www.pressreader.com/category/tag-540250998

from this will just have to see what announcements come from Belfast City Airport this week and next, could be quite interesting
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 12:32
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Would the backers of BHD potentially invest in airline to keep airport viable until such timex as it can be sold. The chat around BHD does seem to indicate thatvthe Sobart flights are happening
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Old 7th Jul 2020, 13:29
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It's likely very much in certain people's interests to insist that these flights will happen. And they may well launch.

From the previous post it's likely that Cyrus and IAG won't be at the front of the queue to bankroll. And it will be interesting to see how the other named party squares off their participation in the project.

It does look very much like a house of cards waiting to unravel, particularly in the current operating environment, but then again time bought no matter how short will have a value to those directly driving the idea.
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