Glasgow-3
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Scotland
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think he loves the idea of people losing their jobs and has hatred all Scottish Airports apart from one. This is based on his numerous posts running down GLA,PIK,DND and ABZ. The demise of EY at EDI will hopefully mean a stable platform for EK at GLA and QR at EDI.
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I’m just an interested bystander. It’s just fascinating to watch airports compete with each other properly. I’m basing it on what I’m hearing, and I said “could”.
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 1,389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wishful thinking, I'd say. I cannot see EK dismantling a twice daily GLA as it looks to do just fine and the loss of connectivity that you get on a single daily is quite significant. Whether they would consider EDI in its own right is another question completely but suggesting a move is pure baiting, I believe.
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 345
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wishful thinking, I'd say. I cannot see EK dismantling a twice daily GLA as it looks to do just fine and the loss of connectivity that you get on a single daily is quite significant. Whether they would consider EDI in its own right is another question completely but suggesting a move is pure baiting, I believe.
What I meant was that the third daily often discussed as on the cards for GLA could be going to EDI instead and I believe it would be a success there too.
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Gateshead, UK
Age: 25
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm no expert, but surely it would be to the benefit of Emirates, the travelling public and in the long run, the airports, for Emirates to build GLA up to 3 daily with an A380 on the lunchtime, start an evening flight into Newcastle and then consider expanding to Edinburgh when they have further secured their existing services. This also gives Qatar a chance to grow EDI first, without creating an apocalyptic bloodbath...
I'd like to think that Emirates are more responsible than to flood the Scottish market. Qatar will do what they want, best to let them get on with their willy waving
I'd like to think that Emirates are more responsible than to flood the Scottish market. Qatar will do what they want, best to let them get on with their willy waving
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Samsonite Avenue
Posts: 1,538
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Correct me if I am wrong but I am led to believe that EK is a non starter at EDI, as there is no contact stand large enough to accommodate the 777-300, as it is 14m longer than the 332 (which is marginally longer than the 788).
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NE ENGLAND
Posts: 956
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oban, Scotland
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not even on the terminal extension, opening this summer?
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Edinburgh
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Newcastle
Posts: 1,932
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Skyman771 I think ncl is due to get a second flight which will be a evening flight.
What are the chances of the aircraft going to Edinburgh instead ?? I'm guessing none but you never know in this business
What are the chances of the aircraft going to Edinburgh instead ?? I'm guessing none but you never know in this business
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Czechia
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
In 2017, Emirates carried 237,856 pax on DXB-NCL. The route is flown by the two-class B77W with 428 seats, giving an average load factor of 76%. To compare, Emirates have an 89% load factor on their double daily DXB-GLA service, and the average load factor across the Emirates network is 77%.
Last edited by A380.Q400; 8th Apr 2018 at 16:16.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Solihull
Age: 59
Posts: 3,243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Emirates
Interesting debate in respect of Emirates next step in Scotland or for that matter North East England or maybe more relevant to the Emirates thread.
Source: CAA Annual Figures for 2017
GLA-DXB 2017 passengers 466953 up 9% an average of 320 per flight or 89% load factor based on 360 seats assuming all flights operated (no idea) and that all were 360 config (they were not).
NCL-DXB 2017 passengers 237856 up 3% an average of 326 or 76% load factor based on 428 seats but of course Newcastle have in the past depending on the time of year get 3 class versions, which would mean the load factor is in fact higher than 76% but relevant if it is to stay a 2-class service.
So what will it be if EY leave EDI, as suggested.
1) Glasgow third service
2) Glasgow A388 & 77W (3 Class)
3) New EDI 77W service
4) Evening NCL service (That wouldn't affect any extra GLA service though I presume)
5) Some of the above
6) None of the above
Forgive me for those who live in NE England but option 4 seems to way off at present if Glasgow at 89% has got nothing as yet.
Option 1 - At this stage you think that there would be two chances - no chance and fat chance based on their BHX experience and even more illustrious airports such as Milan, Rome , Munich and Frankfurt have struggled in the past with frequency cuts although I believe the third service has been restored at most of these now.
I won't reference Manchester in this as their EK service has been outstanding and in a league of its own in general but they were once rumoured to get a 4th service and that has not happened.....yet
Perhaps eventually options 2 and 3 could happen once the 787-10 is in the fleet?
I just can't see 6 as an option - surely too good of an opportunity to be missed?
Pete
Source: CAA Annual Figures for 2017
GLA-DXB 2017 passengers 466953 up 9% an average of 320 per flight or 89% load factor based on 360 seats assuming all flights operated (no idea) and that all were 360 config (they were not).
NCL-DXB 2017 passengers 237856 up 3% an average of 326 or 76% load factor based on 428 seats but of course Newcastle have in the past depending on the time of year get 3 class versions, which would mean the load factor is in fact higher than 76% but relevant if it is to stay a 2-class service.
So what will it be if EY leave EDI, as suggested.
1) Glasgow third service
2) Glasgow A388 & 77W (3 Class)
3) New EDI 77W service
4) Evening NCL service (That wouldn't affect any extra GLA service though I presume)
5) Some of the above
6) None of the above
Forgive me for those who live in NE England but option 4 seems to way off at present if Glasgow at 89% has got nothing as yet.
Option 1 - At this stage you think that there would be two chances - no chance and fat chance based on their BHX experience and even more illustrious airports such as Milan, Rome , Munich and Frankfurt have struggled in the past with frequency cuts although I believe the third service has been restored at most of these now.
I won't reference Manchester in this as their EK service has been outstanding and in a league of its own in general but they were once rumoured to get a 4th service and that has not happened.....yet
Perhaps eventually options 2 and 3 could happen once the 787-10 is in the fleet?
I just can't see 6 as an option - surely too good of an opportunity to be missed?
Pete
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Oban, Scotland
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Or of course Qatar could add a second service on some or all days.
Remember that from Edinburgh the shortest routes to Japan and China are further north via CPN or Helsinki. Although I have a friend who travels from Edinburgh to China every year and travels to GLA for Emirates. Must ask him why.
Edinburgh also has Istanbul as an alternative hub for Africa SE Asia and Australia. And if I wanted to break my journey, I'd want to do so in somewhere interesting.
Remember that from Edinburgh the shortest routes to Japan and China are further north via CPN or Helsinki. Although I have a friend who travels from Edinburgh to China every year and travels to GLA for Emirates. Must ask him why.
Edinburgh also has Istanbul as an alternative hub for Africa SE Asia and Australia. And if I wanted to break my journey, I'd want to do so in somewhere interesting.
Join Date: May 2002
Location: SW Scotland
Age: 39
Posts: 390
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Czechia
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Your route map looks like it's a couple of years old, but not much has changed since then. Turkish only fly to about 20 destinations in NE Asia, SE Asia and India. That being said, these destinations encompass the most popular destinations for connecting passengers, so for most people flying to Asia it's a suitable alternative to the ME3. Also, while Turkish themselves don't serve Australia, they do codeshare with Singapore Airlines, THAI and Qantas with connections in SIN, BKK, HKG and CGK; it just means passengers would have two stopovers instead of one.
