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This is the latest in a long string of of lost routes, the number being lost for w18 is major and now this. Iirc All we have seen as replacements is an e145 to ldy, 2 weekly to vce and a month extra dl to jfk!
And the loss of PHL comes despite the latest ons tourism figures showing US visits to Glasgow up 40% in 2017 - No excuses there seemingly!
I think there must be serious questions about ags abilities to run the airport and compete with gip EDI - I suspect they're totally outfoxed and outfinanced. They need to come up with some big wins soon, although I'm not holding my breath!
And the loss of PHL comes despite the latest ons tourism figures showing US visits to Glasgow up 40% in 2017 - No excuses there seemingly!
I think there must be serious questions about ags abilities to run the airport and compete with gip EDI - I suspect they're totally outfoxed and outfinanced. They need to come up with some big wins soon, although I'm not holding my breath!
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Wasn't that mean't to be an A380 gate? I thought the prospect of the A380 at GLA was done for when EK annouced EDI?
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Seems like you're right, I just had a look at the planning permission and it mentions in a letter dated to 27th June 2018 that "The proposed extension to the terminal has not changed. However, plans have been revised to amend the two fixed links to accommodate three airbridges and external stairs.". Sounds like they are pushing ahead with what definitely sounds like an A380 gate regardless of the EDI announcement.
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My thinking is the EDI announcement came due to the A380 coming to Glasgow, the 777 that will go to EDI will take the bulk of the cargo that the current 777 at Glasgow takes due to the reduced cargo capacity of the A380
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And yet Norwegian have shown enormous demand out of Gatwick and United maintain EDI at three daily in summer. ORD-MAN was self inflicted managed decline from AA and PHL-EDI aligns with the move out of JFK for connecting traffic. Oddly enough this shows the STRENGTH of the IAG/AA JV rather than a weakness at AA as LHR is a BA/AA fortress hub and they can connect easily to GLA whereas EDI has enough pull for inbound US visitors to remain direct
.The catchment area around MAN and LGW is far greater than GLA. Truth of the matter is and has been, both GLA and EDI are too close together. Imagine, one central airport. It would be a far better competitive prospect a d produce real opportunity for route growth and better frequencies. Alas, it will never happen.
And yet Norwegian have shown enormous demand out of Gatwick and United maintain EDI at three daily in summer. ORD-MAN was self inflicted managed decline from AA and PHL-EDI aligns with the move out of JFK for connecting traffic. Oddly enough this shows the STRENGTH of the IAG/AA JV rather than a weakness at AA as LHR is a BA/AA fortress hub and they can connect easily to GLA whereas EDI has enough pull for inbound US visitors to remain direct
.The catchment area around MAN and LGW is far greater than GLA. Truth of the matter is and has been, both GLA and EDI are too close together. Imagine, one central airport. It would be a far better competitive prospect a d produce real opportunity for route growth and better frequencies. Alas, it will never happen.
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Surely they would have just put a third 777 into GLA if that was the case?
C.A.A data doesn't want to play somehow although its available via the Cardiff thread.
Passenger figures for Glasgow were for July 1,066,159 -1.5% compared to 2017.
Running total stands at 982210 +0.9%.
Regards 4ea
Passenger figures for Glasgow were for July 1,066,159 -1.5% compared to 2017.
Running total stands at 982210 +0.9%.
Regards 4ea
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With Etihad stopping the day before Emirates start, there's little change in ME3 capacity from Edinburgh. But of course, the public will decide which airport they wish to use.
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I suspect once the runway is back to normal in DXB, they will attempt double daily from EDI. I don't think GLA will change to the 380 any time soon though.
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Terminal extension and triple airbridge being installed for completion by summer 19.
What people need to remember is that whilst Edinburgh is the darling of the tourist world and sees a huge amount of inbound passengers Glasgow is Scotland’s biggest city and so has the critical mass. This is why most of the charter and holiday destinations have historically departed from the West.
I believe that EK looked at operating the 380 previously but lack of cargo capacity was the issue. With the EDI flight some of this can move east alleviating the issue at GLA and potentially allowing the 380 to operate one of the flights.
What people need to remember is that whilst Edinburgh is the darling of the tourist world and sees a huge amount of inbound passengers Glasgow is Scotland’s biggest city and so has the critical mass. This is why most of the charter and holiday destinations have historically departed from the West.
I believe that EK looked at operating the 380 previously but lack of cargo capacity was the issue. With the EDI flight some of this can move east alleviating the issue at GLA and potentially allowing the 380 to operate one of the flights.
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Terminal extension and triple airbridge being installed for completion by summer 19.
What people need to remember is that whilst Edinburgh is the darling of the tourist world and sees a huge amount of inbound passengers Glasgow is Scotland’s biggest city and so has the critical mass. This is why most of the charter and holiday destinations have historically departed from the West.
I believe that EK looked at operating the 380 previously but lack of cargo capacity was the issue. With the EDI flight some of this can move east alleviating the issue at GLA and potentially allowing the 380 to operate one of the flights.
What people need to remember is that whilst Edinburgh is the darling of the tourist world and sees a huge amount of inbound passengers Glasgow is Scotland’s biggest city and so has the critical mass. This is why most of the charter and holiday destinations have historically departed from the West.
I believe that EK looked at operating the 380 previously but lack of cargo capacity was the issue. With the EDI flight some of this can move east alleviating the issue at GLA and potentially allowing the 380 to operate one of the flights.
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I agree the east is growing faster than the west but greater Glasgow has a population of 1.2m whereas Edinburgh has a population of under 0.5m.
As I said Edinburgh appears to have the tourists and the investment but Glasgow has a healthy catchment which is why Emirates have been flying for so long, and is why they are looking to up gauge one of the flights.
This is can all be achieved by putting an extra rotation through Edinburgh which is essentially picking up from where Etihad failed. This will take the cargo the 380 can’t and everyone is a winner. If it’s successful at Edinburgh there could be an additional daily flight but Emirates don’t appear to rush into these things so this could be a few years away.
As I said Edinburgh appears to have the tourists and the investment but Glasgow has a healthy catchment which is why Emirates have been flying for so long, and is why they are looking to up gauge one of the flights.
This is can all be achieved by putting an extra rotation through Edinburgh which is essentially picking up from where Etihad failed. This will take the cargo the 380 can’t and everyone is a winner. If it’s successful at Edinburgh there could be an additional daily flight but Emirates don’t appear to rush into these things so this could be a few years away.