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Old 30th Mar 2019, 19:05
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Originally Posted by Severn
GCI - LHR
As has been discussed, the new GCI-LHR route will be operated by a BHX based DH8D. This aircraft will operate 6x sectors: BHX-JER-GCI-LHR-GCI-JER-BHX.
These 6x sectors will take just under 9 hours from blocks off in BHX at 12:15 to blocks on in BHX at 20:50 - (this info is for a Monday in April).
There will be 25 minutes turnarounds in GCI and JER and 1hr 35 scheduled on the ground in LHR.

Heres a typical schedule:

dep BHX 12:15
arr JER 13:25 // dep JER 13:50
arr GCI 14:15 // dep GCI 14:40
arr LHR 15:45 // dep LHR 17:20
arr GCI 18:25 // dep GCI 18:50
arr JER 19:15 // dep JER 19:40
arr BHX 20:50
That is cutting it quite fine given the factors involved with channel islands fog and LHR congestion. With a one hour report and 15 minutes after duty to factor in, it doesn't leave that much wiggle room.

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Old 30th Mar 2019, 23:36
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Surely if things were going amiss it would be easy-ish to get a standby crew from BHX or even SOU into LHR in decent time to pick things up?
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Old 31st Mar 2019, 00:54
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Surprised they aren't selling a JER-GCI-LHR service too.
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Old 31st Mar 2019, 10:31
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As the route is heavily subsidised by the Bailiwick of Guernsey, maybe the cash cow has not entertained the idea of getting milked by Jersey punters?

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Old 31st Mar 2019, 12:51
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Not long after the GCI-LHR announcement, the Jersey Evening Post ran an article in which Flybe said they would be opening bookings for JER-GCI-LHR as a through booking about 10 days after the GCI-LHR went on sale so it was on the cards but maybe Guernsey States managed to close that down.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 10:28
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Poor start to the summer Schedule from DSA. 3 days in and more than half the flights cancelled.
No 2nd aircraft has been brought in, hence the cancellations. Expecting to see a cull of routes soon.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 10:42
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
Poor start to the summer Schedule from DSA. 3 days in and more than half the flights cancelled.
No 2nd aircraft has been brought in, hence the cancellations. Expecting to see a cull of routes soon.
Wrong again TimmyW. Where do you get your information from? A second aircraft HAS actually been "brought in" to DSA and operated a full timetabled schedule yesterday.

What is infact happening is an operation-wide crew shortage. Both flight crew and cabin crew. I would probably go to say they will soon be in crisis mode if not already. Flybe however only have themselves to blame. No solid reassurance for their employees jobs before and now after the consortium take-over. This coupled with an extremely late winter schedule release - which would have reassured employees of future plans, then i can fully understand why so many have left or jumped ship to other airlines. I'm also not aware of any recruitment campaigns to make up for these losses, so i can't see the crewing issues ending any time soon.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 10:44
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
Wrong again TimmyW. Where do you get your information from? A second aircraft HAS actually been "brought in" to DSA and operated a full timetabled schedule yesterday.

What is infact happening is an operation-wide crew shortage. Both flight crew and cabin crew. I would probably go to say they will soon be in crisis mode if not already. Flybe however only have themselves to blame. No solid reassurance for their employees jobs before and now after the consortium take-over. This coupled with an extremely late winter schedule release - which would have reassured employees of future plans, then i can fully understand why so many have left or jumped ship to other airlines. I'm also not aware of any recruitment campaigns to make up for these losses, so i can't see the crewing issues ending any time soon.
The second aircraft went back out to Birmingham yesterday.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 10:56
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
The second aircraft went back out to Birmingham yesterday.
I can assure you it did not. Oh dear TimmyW. I think you will find the plane will actually still be parked up at DSA after arriving back from AMS yesterday evening.

Todays BHD has been cancelled. Yet again due to a network wide crewing crisis.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Cazza_fly
I can assure you it did not. Oh dear TimmyW. I think you will find the plane will actually still be parked up at DSA after arriving back from AMS yesterday evening.

Todays BHD has been cancelled. Yet again due to a network wide crewing crisis.
I can assure you, it did.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 11:20
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
I can assure you, it did.
Show me evidence other than the one i'm physically seeing right now and then i'll never believe my eye sight again.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 11:35
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So you've driven there just to check?
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 12:37
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
So you've driven there just to check?
100% guarantee there are two based E175s at DSA. I work there so i should know

Not sure why someone would spend time on a forum lying - very sad
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 12:57
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Originally Posted by Alwayslistening
100% guarantee there are two based E175s at DSA. I work there so i should know

Not sure why someone would spend time on a forum lying - very sad
Best to ignore Timmy
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 15:20
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not very good start

Originally Posted by TimmyW
Poor start to the summer Schedule from DSA. 3 days in and more than half the flights cancelled.
No 2nd aircraft has been brought in, hence the cancellations.
Meanwhile over at NQY also not a good look - First day of LHR-NQY Ops - last evenings goes tech at 8pm and folk bussed up to LHR - 6 hours - nice (not)

I would have preferred they put me on the GWR sleeper
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 18:00
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My daughter flew to EMA from JER on Friday for a visit. Her return Monday flight was cancelled, so she booked today. Three hours before departure that was cancelled for "technical reasons". Having read the above posts I suppose it is crew shortages causing the cancellations.

Flymaybe are the worst airline I've ever flown on and they continue to plumb the depths of customer service. What a shambles they are cancelling flights on consecutive days so my daughter can't get to work. She says she will use easyJet to Liverpool next time. Oh how I wish easyJet had remained at EMA, they are so much better than Flybe.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 20:37
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TimmyW is DSA's naysayer. He is ignored on the EGCN thread hence turning up here with his usual inaccurate information.

Still these cancellations are vexing. I need to book for Dublin next week, and was planning to return to Manchester with a different airline. A cancellation would murder that plan. Choices are to use a different airport, or double the risk and book both ways with Flybe and an overnight stop....
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 21:44
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There are two cancellations out of EDI tomorrow as well. Early SOU flight and the 10.30 BHX.
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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 23:01
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Cancellations

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There are two cancellations out of EDI tomorrow as well. Early SOU flight and the 10.30 BHX.

Add BHX-BHD again, BHX-BOD BHX-ABZ plus the EDI mentioned above, then today BHX - BHD and BHX- GLA,, BHX -NQY yesterday and so it goes on, a sorry state of affairs.

Just for balance add Newcastle - Southampton, Belfast City to East Mids. Leeds, Glasgow and Aberdeen and Glasgow - East Mids - well into double figures..

Mind you al from an airline that operates a 175 on short sectors such as MAN-NQY and MAN - SOU but a Dash on BHX-STR or TXL says it all really and I do know why this is the case but I thought the new owners might have other ideas.

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Old 2nd Apr 2019, 23:27
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Originally Posted by OltonPete
Add BHX-BHD again, BHX-BOD BHX-ABZ plus the EDI mentioned above, then today BHX - BHD and BHX- GLA,, BHX -NQY yesterday and so it goes on, a sorry state of affairs.

Just for balance add Newcastle - Southampton, Belfast City to East Mids. Leeds, Glasgow and Aberdeen and Glasgow - East Mids - well into double figures..

Mind you al from an airline that operates a 175 on short sectors such as MAN-NQY and MAN - SOU but a Dash on BHX-STR or TXL says it all really and I do know why this is the case but I thought the new owners might have other ideas.

Pete
I assume load factors dictate which aircraft is used on what route no point sending a 175 to STR if they canít fill it . Plus until EU approval sometime in the summer new owners donít have a say
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