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So, is it possible that GOAL are responsible to the maintenance of those e195's which Flybe/ Stobart operate under their JV?
Seems unusual for them to trade with a German based leasor when
are based in Dublin as the global hub for aircraft leasing.
Seems unusual for them to trade with a German based leasor when
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So, is it possible that GOAL are responsible to the maintenance of those e195's which Flybe/ Stobart operate under their JV?
Seems unusual for them to trade with a German based leasor when 9 of the top 10 global aircraft leasing companies are based in Dublin as the global hub for aircraft leasing.
Seems unusual for them to trade with a German based leasor when 9 of the top 10 global aircraft leasing companies are based in Dublin as the global hub for aircraft leasing.

There's nothing unusual about dealing with a lessor like GOAL. There is a tradition of German high-net-worth investors going into asset finance (helped in the past by specific German tax laws) and if I recall correctly, some lessors such as GOAL were established to target this mostly German investor pool.
Or are you suggesting some level of conspiracy theory that I'm missing?


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The wet lease in the Isle of Man was a five year deal and Flybe exercised its right to give a years notice at the three year mark. Negotiations were undertaken and crews were told in June that the base is to close on 31.03.2019. Flybe have said that there will be two Q400s based on there IOM thereafter.
Stobart have been restructuring the routes under the Flybe franchise out of SEN and they have decided to end some routes. We have to remember that the Stobart Group which owns SEN have allowed Ryanair to operate 5 aircraft so this could be a reason why they have decided to end some routes.
Stobart have been restructuring the routes under the Flybe franchise out of SEN and they have decided to end some routes. We have to remember that the Stobart Group which owns SEN have allowed Ryanair to operate 5 aircraft so this could be a reason why they have decided to end some routes.

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The wet lease in the Isle of Man was a five year deal and Flybe exercised its right to give a years notice at the three year mark. Negotiations were undertaken and crews were told in June that the base is to close on 31.03.2019. Flybe have said that there will be two Q400s based on there IOM thereafter.
Stobart have been restructuring the routes under the Flybe franchise out of SEN and they have decided to end some routes. We have to remember that the Stobart Group which owns SEN have allowed Ryanair to operate 5 aircraft so this could be a reason why they have decided to end some routes.
Stobart have been restructuring the routes under the Flybe franchise out of SEN and they have decided to end some routes. We have to remember that the Stobart Group which owns SEN have allowed Ryanair to operate 5 aircraft so this could be a reason why they have decided to end some routes.

Flew LHR-EDI on G-PRPK today, on the ground the windows were misted up, and unusually it didn’t clear once in the air. All the way up, there was a sheen of dampness across most of the windows. Never seen this persist in the air, is it ideal to have all that water in there? Aside from the issue of not actually being able to see out......

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Why would you be imagining it? It operates 3x weekly throughout the summer and has done since 2016. Infact it was previously operated back then on the E195. I believe it does pretty well too looking at the stats.

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Oh don't worry, Disjointed Rivets is only here to have another go at the airline that gave him a leg up in the industry, he's got form on that one, he fails to realise that if they pulled out of his beloved airport he'd be staring at 6,000 new houses in a few years time.

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Stobart seem to pull 2 E95s at SEN
A media report today suggests that Stobart will pull two E95s at Southend and they will deploy the remaining one on the Dublin route from next spring. They are to discontinue a number of SEN routes that are currently operated by the E95s. I wonder what they are going to do with the two E95s that they were supposed to purchase this autumn/winter. But there is no mentioning that the franchise deal with flybe is dead.

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A media report today suggests that Stobart will pull two E95s at Southend and they will deploy the remaining one on the Dublin route from next spring. They are to discontinue a number of SEN routes that are currently operated by the E95s. I wonder what they are going to do with the two E95s that they were supposed to purchase this autumn/winter. But there is no mentioning that the franchise deal with flybe is dead.

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It seems to be a ‘revised’ livery, rather than another overhaul. Sounds like removing the other colours, so just purple and white to fit with the new ‘Closer to you’ branding. Not that they have more important things to focus on...
