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Old 19th Sep 2017, 12:13
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Just wait until a few months have elapsed. They will continue to smooth this, even as the real reason continues to leak out.
Again, compare their PR with BA's.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 13:01
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Just wait until a few months have elapsed. They will continue to smooth this......
And Iíve no doubt it will be. And no, this isnít the end for Ryanair. And yes, people will still book with them.

But I do wonder if this is a bit of a watershed moment for them. Theyíve been shown to be vulnerable and to have issues with staff retention and internal processes.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 13:15
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
And Iíve no doubt it will be. And no, this isnít the end for Ryanair. And yes, people will still book with them.

But I do wonder if this is a bit of a watershed moment for them. Theyíve been shown to be vulnerable and to have issues with staff retention and internal processes.
They've had issues with staff retention for years, especially cabin crew. It's now come to a head, and the pilots are in a stronger position than they were because they are fighting for them
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 13:25
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https://www.rte.ie/news/business/201...us-for-pilots/

Ryanair offers Ä12,000 bonus to pilots who give up leave
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 13:30
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Nice money, if you can get it.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 13:46
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Plenty of strings attached if you read the whole article. Too easy for them to worm out of paying it.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 13:49
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I find it astonishing that they feel able to cancel 25% of their Stansted flights over the six week period. Since they are so dominant there, there's (almost) no-one to fear.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 14:21
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FR are cancelling 7-10 departures per day from Stn in the period from 25Sep , this is no where near 25% of operation.

It involves the equivalent of 2 out of 41 STn based a/c though some of the cancelled flights are operated by overseas based aircraft.

It looks more like 7-8% of STN operation.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 15:35
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Not paying someone for 12 months, and then not at all if they have left in the meantime, would appear to breach minimum pay legislation, in the UK at least (possibly also in Ireland and other EU countries).

Saying they will not be paid the amount due if they have more than 4 days sick in the intervening 12 months would act as an incentive to wish to work when unwell, which should surely attract the attention of even such a toothless regulator as the Irish CAA.

Interesting BBC take on the situation, at last now questioning the Ryanair official line

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41319482

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Old 19th Sep 2017, 15:40
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Ryanair press conference in Burgas - Bulgaria this morning.
Did this press conference happen?
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 16:04
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Originally Posted by WHBM View Post
Not paying someone for 12 months, and then not at all if they have left in the meantime, would appear to breach minimum pay legislation, in the UK at least (possibly also in Ireland and other EU countries).

Saying they will not be paid the amount due if they have more than 4 days sick in the intervening 12 months would act as an incentive to wish to work when unwell, which should surely attract the attention of even such a toothless regulator as the Irish CAA.

Interesting BBC take on the situation, at last now questioning the Ryanair official line

Does Ryanair have a pilot shortage? - BBC News
Slow day at the Beeb and amateur so called journalism. If they bothered to rewind yesterday's VT of the MOL press conference they will have fact based data on crew availability per airframe. Stupidity of the BBC. MOL would not be stating the numbers and facts yesterday for the fun of it. It was aimed at aviation regulators attention to detail and the Ryanair institutional investors and it's own employee's.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 16:07
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Originally Posted by BFS BHD View Post
Did this press conference happen?
Yes, Burgas 1 aircraft base confirmed with 10 routes.

Nothing on the Ryanair website for the moment.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 16:10
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Yes, Burgas 1 aircraft base confirmed with 10 routes.

Nothing on the Ryanair website for the moment.
Thanks for the info!
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 16:10
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Interesting BBC take on the situation, at last now questioning the Ryanair official line - We know 140 Ryanair pilots have gone to Norwegian this year
"April to June adjusted operating profit before leasing and depreciation (EBITDAR) fell to 1.19 billion crowns (€125.8 million), down 21 per cent year-on-year and below analysts’ forecast in a Reuters poll of 1.51 billion crowns. Norwegian Air’s operating result swung to a loss of 863 million crowns from a year-ago profit of 1 billion, while analysts had expected a loss of 246 million."

Not everyone you lose is a loss.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 16:12
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Bulgaria New Routes

Yes, Burgas 1 aircraft base confirmed with 10 routes.

Nothing on the Ryanair website for the moment.
Burgas:
Bratislava (2)
Dusseldorf Weeze (2)
Frankfurt-Hahn (2)
Krakow (2)
Memmingen (2)
Milan Bergamo (2)
Riga (2)
Rzeszow (1)
Tel Aviv (2)
Warsaw Modlin (2)

Sofia:
Paphas (3)

Plovdiv:
Brussels Charleroi (2)
Frankfurt-Hahn (2)
Milan Bergamo (2)

Vana:
Brussels Charleroi (2)
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 16:43
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The Bulgarian press release is now here:

RYANAIR ????????? ???????????? 100 ???. ?????? ? ???????? ? ???? ???????? ???? (? 87) 1 ??????? ???????, 10 ???????? ? 250 000 ??????? ??????? ? ???????? ?? ???????? ?????????? ?? ???? 2018 | Ryanair's Corporate Website

The big question is what they plan to do with the aircraft in winter.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 17:08
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EU-free airline company?

That would seem to be the case given that the BBC has just reported that Ryanair's offer to rebook passengers on alternative flights is contingent on their being willing to pay the difference when the replacement flight is more expensive in clear contradiction of EU261/2004.

An error by the BBC?
Far from impossible !


A clear indication that Ryanair is an EU-free airline
? Far from....
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 17:12
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Would a Plovdiv base in the winter make sense, to tie in with ski season?
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 20:50
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Originally Posted by PAXboy View Post
Just wait until a few months have elapsed. They will continue to smooth this, even as the real reason continues to leak out.
Again, compare their PR with BA's.
At least BA wet leased a bunch of Qatar A320's when BA had staffing issues (strikes). I wonder did Ryanair even explore this option? The 8 Qatar A321's would have worked great, and Qatar still have not resumed the dozens of daily short-haul flights it was forced to suspend earlier this year.
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Old 19th Sep 2017, 21:00
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The underlying thought seems to be that cancelling the published number of flights and the slow winter schedule will somehow, at a stroke, solve their pilot shortage for next year. I am very sceptical about that. Next summer is not far away and the bums on seats that matter are in 1A & 1F.
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