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I grant you that it was operated by Eirjet rather than Ryanair but it was marketed solely by FR and was described in much of the press in the days after the incident occurred as being a Ryanair flight.
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I just hope this situation isn't twisted around to make it look as though it is the pilots are being unreasonable.
A news item on the BBC last night mentioned the Thomson pilots' strike.
Now all seemed well until the newsreader mentioned a 10% pay rise, which equated on average to £10,000 per pilot. Two issues here at least:
1. With public sector workers being capped at 1%, a 10% pay rise for what many might consider a lucrative profession will be seen as extortionate (private company or not); and
2. Simple maths reveals an average salary of around £100k per pilot.
Today on the lunchtime news there was a Captain from an international pilot training organisation stating a shortage of pilots and the fact that the profession isn't as attractive as it used to be.
However, the newsreader asked if this situation with Ryanair wasn't an opportunity for pilots to seek better pay and conditions on the back of the Ryanair debacle ... ?
Not too difficult to mix these various news reports up to make it look as though greedy, selfish, over-paid, under worked pilots are the real cause of the problem - with the pilot holiday situation making it impossible for a responsible, customer-focussed airline such as Ryanair to fulfil its commitments to its passengers.
I hope the situation has gone beyond that and the public realise that the fault lies fairly and squarely with MOL and his 'management' team.
It would be a shame if the reputation of pilots was tarnished by the perception of a strong union (BALPA) forcing pay deals on the airlines at the expense of the passengers.
A news item on the BBC last night mentioned the Thomson pilots' strike.
Now all seemed well until the newsreader mentioned a 10% pay rise, which equated on average to £10,000 per pilot. Two issues here at least:
1. With public sector workers being capped at 1%, a 10% pay rise for what many might consider a lucrative profession will be seen as extortionate (private company or not); and
2. Simple maths reveals an average salary of around £100k per pilot.
Today on the lunchtime news there was a Captain from an international pilot training organisation stating a shortage of pilots and the fact that the profession isn't as attractive as it used to be.
However, the newsreader asked if this situation with Ryanair wasn't an opportunity for pilots to seek better pay and conditions on the back of the Ryanair debacle ... ?
Not too difficult to mix these various news reports up to make it look as though greedy, selfish, over-paid, under worked pilots are the real cause of the problem - with the pilot holiday situation making it impossible for a responsible, customer-focussed airline such as Ryanair to fulfil its commitments to its passengers.
I hope the situation has gone beyond that and the public realise that the fault lies fairly and squarely with MOL and his 'management' team.
It would be a shame if the reputation of pilots was tarnished by the perception of a strong union (BALPA) forcing pay deals on the airlines at the expense of the passengers.
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Looks like MOL has is boxing glove on 
from the guardian
The Ryanair chief executive, Michael O’Leary, has escalated the airline’s dispute with pilots, saying they do not have a “difficult job” and claiming he can force them to give up a week of leave.
from the guardianThe Ryanair chief executive, Michael O’Leary, has escalated the airline’s dispute with pilots, saying they do not have a “difficult job” and claiming he can force them to give up a week of leave.
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So, a poster here on PPrune perpetuated a falsehood by giving the impression that a Ryanair crew had previously landed at the wrong airport and should it happen again.......? The likes of the Daily Mail would easily pick that up and make a story for its gullible readers to spread around even further. I would have expected more from contributors to this Forum.
If Ryanair choose to put their flights out to an ACMI provider, it's still their flight.
If it comes to that, most Ryanair flights don't have a Ryanair crew either; they have self-employed crew supplied through an agency.
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If it comes to that, most Ryanair flights don't have a Ryanair crew either; they have self-employed crew supplied through an agency.
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So, a poster here on PPrune perpetuated a falsehood by giving the impression that a Ryanair crew had previously landed at the wrong airport and should it happen again.......? The likes of the Daily Mail would easily pick that up and make a story for its gullible readers to spread around even further. I would have expected more from contributors to this Forum.
The reputation of an airline is vulnerable and Ryanair's is on the line. If it suffers further damage then no sentences including the words "wet lease" or "not actually an employee; self employed through an agency" would help them!!!
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Word on the street that Ryanair's lawyers are going to start proceedings against some of the media and the press in the upcoming days for some of the ridicolous things that have been printed in the media, the fabrications and the outright lies.
There's been people claiming they were treated badly and had their flights cancelled between airports that Ryanair don't serve, photos claiming to show things on Ryanair aircraft which are not even 737s just to mention a few things.
There's been people claiming they were treated badly and had their flights cancelled between airports that Ryanair don't serve, photos claiming to show things on Ryanair aircraft which are not even 737s just to mention a few things.
An 11 1/5 year old story that you dredge up...................... DJ you need to do better.
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Word on the street that Ryanair's lawyers are going to start proceedings against some of the media and the press in the upcoming days for some of the ridicolous things that have been printed in the media, the fabrications and the outright lies.
There's been people claiming they were treated badly and had their flights cancelled between airports that Ryanair don't serve, photos claiming to show things on Ryanair aircraft which are not even 737s just to mention a few things.
There's been people claiming they were treated badly and had their flights cancelled between airports that Ryanair don't serve, photos claiming to show things on Ryanair aircraft which are not even 737s just to mention a few things.
... or it will turn out that the story was 50% correct and up to 40% unverifiable, and the blood-letting will continue.
I know they think there's no such thing as bad publicity, but Gerald Ratner knows that if you get things wrong there can be!