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Old 19th Dec 2017, 12:59
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Ryanair crew work five extra hours a day for no pay | Daily Mail Online

Ryanair bosses 'don't treat crew like humans', say staff | Daily Mail Online

I am by no means a lover of the daily mail or pro/anti Ryanair and these kind of reports have been around for years but will this gain some traction with the travelling public?
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 13:02
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Errrrr....in a word NO.....
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 13:47
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Ryanair have issued a statement saying they will recognize cabin crew unions


Could the return of the CFO be behind the sweeping changes....

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...tive-1.3332320
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 18:51
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Ryanair eyes new bases in France, Scandinavia after union move
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ry...-idUKKBN1ED21T

FR also estimating 100 million annual increase in cost base because of the latest move.
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Old 19th Dec 2017, 19:55
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“it opens up growth opportunities for us in France and Scandinavia, countries that were previously closed to us because we felt it was going to involve mandatory union recognition,” O‘Leary said.
OK, welcome to Finland. However, it could be pretty tough, I guess.
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Is Finland part of Scandinavia?
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Old 20th Dec 2017, 21:09
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Strictly geographically, Northern and Eastern part of Finland does not belong to Scandinavia, even if most of Finland used to be a part of the Kingdom of Sweden for many years. Politically there always have been strong ties between Finland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark, even Iceland and in Finland we don't really use the word "Scandinavia", we use "Pohjoismaat" (or in Swedish Norden). And as you can see...
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Looks like a strike in Germany after Ryanair rejected the Committee put forward by German Unions as it is believed to consist of two pilots from competitor airlines and Ryanair will only accept Ryanair staff on the Committee.

Ryanair should hold firm on this - no company is going to open their business to their competitors employees and nor should they for reasons of business and commercial confidentiality and if I was the pilots I wouldn't want them representing me either.

I'm for unions but only those who are employed by the company the union is for.
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Old 21st Dec 2017, 17:19
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Confirmed now by Ryanair that the person put forward by the VC is currently involved in litigation proceedings with Ryanair.
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Old 24th Dec 2017, 18:51
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Ryanair announced some "extra summer flights" from Ireland
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...and/?market=ie

Alicante and Palma will see each one additional aircraft
https://corporate.ryanair.com/noveda...018/?market=ca
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Old 25th Dec 2017, 19:40
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As far as I am aware, if you do not have a good internet connection, the Ryanair website has been pretty crap for the last 5 years or so - presumably something to do with using over-sophisticated software.
It is not unusual to get a screen which erroneously tells you that there are no flights to where you want to go.
What is peculiar is that airlines never seem to fix these problems.
Worth noting that there also appears to be a problem with the website refusing to check you in -hardly a problem appropriate for an airline which then tries to charge a substantial fee for the check-in.
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Old 26th Dec 2017, 16:45
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Try logging out, clearing your cookies and cache and trying again ...
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On the occasion it happened to me, five different computers could not complete the check-in. It worked on the sixth.
Various things are worth trying. Ryanair themselves suggested always using a private window for booking - which would seem to indicate they were not unaware of problems.
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As has possibly been eluded to recently on this thread, could somebody on here please confirm that it is mainly down to tight union regulation that the lo-cos have hitherto largely ignored Finland compared to say Sweden? As one who regularly commutes from the UK to Finland, I often wondered why there were so few Finnish services and yet still some. Namely the FR summer services to Tampere/Lappeenrantta and Wizzair flying Turku-Gdansk. If it's possible to fly those routes at all, then why don't they serve more? Is it down to local council or airport agreement?

Thanks in advance
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 06:14
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No problem operating in/out of Finland, I think the problem comes to having staff (crew) based there where they may be subject to, or come under pressure to, be subject to Finland employment and/or union rules.
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 12:20
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Well, even without a single base you could have had many different routes served from several bases outside the country, that never happened on a larger scale here. One reason for Finland being “ignored” is the level of airport fees, taxes and charges – but is it really that much higher than elsewhere in Europe? Much more important reason is probably, let’s call it, the "impartial approach to businesses”: same conditions for everybody, no special deals, no preferences. That’s what MOL would have liked, getting incentives. Maybe a “point of honour” for him?
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No problem operating in/out of Finland, I think the problem comes to having staff (crew) based there where they may be subject to, or come under pressure to, be subject to Finland employment and/or union rules.
I agree with HW on this one. The cost of living in the Nordic countries is much higher than the vast majority of the other bases, so to pay the based crew there, they could probably afford double that in Eastern Europe.
It's worth also thinking that by the time you operate Finland - Mediterranean and back (as an example), you could have squeezed 3 or 4 shorter sectors in other areas of the network, giving more opportunity to flog those lovely ancillaries
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Old 27th Dec 2017, 15:04
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True, albeit there would have been many short ones as well, like Berlin, Warsaw, Copenhagen. EZY is going to test TXL - HEL soon, Wizz proved to be successful on TKU - GDN route (will fly 11x weekly from March' 18), Ryanair could consider connecting flights (via BGY/BUD/WMI?), but surely not with max. twice weekly flights from TMP/LPP as scheduled for the next season.
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Thanks for the input. Several points I hadn't considered. As a regular user of the Gdansk-Turku link with Wizzair, which is often apparently full, it baffles me how there isnt immediate scope for expansion on obvious trans Baltic routes.

Good grief, I struggle to understand why for example there is absolutely no Turku - Tallinn airlink? With no direct ferry services competing. And services from Finland to cheaper shopping and/or migrant worker destinations such as Warsaw are anothet glaring ommission.

Apologies for the thread hijack, but MOL, do you hear me? Strikes me as a golden chance for FR to open a new market n become the fox in Wizzair's chicken coop.
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Connecting routes

Hi, FR showing a number of connecting routes into Italy and Greece from Manchester. I thought that FR didn't provide connecting services. Please can someone explain what is going on or is this a change to the previous mode of operations. Thanks.
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