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AMS cancelled this morning. Told at airport this was due to 'weather'. Weather was ok at MME, METAR didn't seem too bad at AMS. Scheduled aircraft operated AMS-FRA instead despite 'weather'.
Anyone any further info? What's the chances of EU261 payout on this? Wouldn't normally pursue but hate being fobbed off in such a way.
Anyone any further info? What's the chances of EU261 payout on this? Wouldn't normally pursue but hate being fobbed off in such a way.
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Re Amsterdam - lots of the early morning flights to Amsterdam were delayed - checking on the Eurocontrol website it was due to high winds at Amsterdam. Just as a matter of interest were you offered a flight from Newcastle or Leeds?
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The mayor didn't block any flights, he just blocked more tax payers money going into peels back pockets, so you can quote what you like about the mayor, but at the end of the day, he's rite, "peel have had enough from the local tax payers!" another classic quote from a peel fanatic!
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In the past you have told me my head is in the sand...then have the gall to defend the Mayor who most definitely did block flights!! Another classic quote from an anti-Peel fanatic!
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So if the councils had not sold out to Peel, would the elected Mayor, still have been able to veto any plans the council owners would have had for the airport?
I guess we will never find out but the situation seems crackers to me.
I guess we will never find out but the situation seems crackers to me.
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Hartlepool council has to reveal the redacted FOI documents into the sale of Teesside Airport today.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...files-14583930
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...files-14583930
Pull up your chairs,get the beer out of the fridge,order the take away...it’s going to be a very interesting couple of weeks.After Hartlepool..is it Middlesbrough,Darlington,Durham etc. To be investigated? Who needs TV soaps!
at the end of the day..the airport is quietly disappearing in to the abyss...come in Mr.mayor?
at the end of the day..the airport is quietly disappearing in to the abyss...come in Mr.mayor?
highwideandugly mayor will be down at the rugby club with a pint and a parmo.
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Leeds airport boss is targeting DTV passengers and mentions DTVA in an interview.
Just shows the trade is there but Peel only want to build houses.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/busine...iders-14583282
Just shows the trade is there but Peel only want to build houses.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/busine...iders-14583282
"top of the list for travellers who don’t mind an hour or so on the A1". Might as well go an hour or so in the other direction or Manchester just as quick! If the meddling mayor had stuck to pints, parmos and rugby we might of had some holiday flights. Has Leeds slipped him some pie money to scupper the DTVA holiday flights.
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Peel council airport sale documents - who was behind the deal?
Looks like Peel were planning ahead with another small clause which they included about closing the airport in the future.
Wonder if thats why they kicked the large airline out to make the figures worse? Was it Hugh who recommended Peel as he went onto work for them before joining the hospital board.
Its time the individuals involved in the sale were named and investigated into how a public owned airport was given away for a fraction of its land worth.
Does make you wonder if the sale documents were drawn up over a pint at the local lodge. Public comments say it all under the news articles.
Echo news
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new...ecret__papers/
Gazette news
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...tails-14601584
Wonder if thats why they kicked the large airline out to make the figures worse? Was it Hugh who recommended Peel as he went onto work for them before joining the hospital board.
Its time the individuals involved in the sale were named and investigated into how a public owned airport was given away for a fraction of its land worth.
Does make you wonder if the sale documents were drawn up over a pint at the local lodge. Public comments say it all under the news articles.
Echo news
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/new...ecret__papers/
Gazette news
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...tails-14601584
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https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...ments-14602992
I would expect to see them on the Save Teesside Airport Facebook page in the next week or so.
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Hmmm
I think the first thing to say is Peel could have at any point since circa 2010 claimed the airport was no longer economically viable and closed it and they are repeatedly choosing not too, couple this with the fact that the land would lose substantial value without the airport on it and they have little incentive to close it.
Also good to see Peel finally making clear that the keeping the airport open until 2021 thing is five years longer than their counterparts at other third tier airports are promising:
This is the case with the figures quoted in the Masterplan, which are merely Government projections.
Once again, as mentioned just the other day...Peel had a based leisure airline ready and waiting to come in next summer (also not something you would pursue if you had aspirations to close the place!!), and judging by the timing of TUIs announcement of their summer 19 programme, it must have been them and they are about the only candidate, so not only does this line of argument no longer hold any weight whatsoever, it's downright stupid!
Now I don't want to lower myself to the antagonists level by always having an answer to everything so I will end on a footnote conceding that generally speaking this whole thing is bad; the clause to close the airport is very bad (even if largely meaningless and probably standard business practice when buying a large high risk facility of any kind) and the lack of promised south-side [aviation] development thus far is bad, Peels response today came across with an element of fear about it (or perhaps just frustration at interference from individuals whose business it is none of) and ultimately there are things that need to change.
I think the first thing to say is Peel could have at any point since circa 2010 claimed the airport was no longer economically viable and closed it and they are repeatedly choosing not too, couple this with the fact that the land would lose substantial value without the airport on it and they have little incentive to close it.
Also good to see Peel finally making clear that the keeping the airport open until 2021 thing is five years longer than their counterparts at other third tier airports are promising:
Originally Posted by Peel
“In recent years we have made a further commitment to the local authorities to maintain airport operations.
“This is very different from the approach taken by many other private companies who have withdrawn from regional airport operations in recent years, with the resulting closure of a number of airports and others, notably Prestwick and Cardiff, surviving only through effective ‘nationalisation’ by the Scottish and Welsh Governments.”
“This is very different from the approach taken by many other private companies who have withdrawn from regional airport operations in recent years, with the resulting closure of a number of airports and others, notably Prestwick and Cardiff, surviving only through effective ‘nationalisation’ by the Scottish and Welsh Governments.”
Originally Posted by Gazette
In a second document, titled ‘The best and final offer of Peel’, the operator told the councils that future passenger projections were “conservative” and that it would plan “for even greater numbers”.
Originally Posted by Beafer
Wonder if thats why they kicked the large airline out to make the figures worse?
Now I don't want to lower myself to the antagonists level by always having an answer to everything so I will end on a footnote conceding that generally speaking this whole thing is bad; the clause to close the airport is very bad (even if largely meaningless and probably standard business practice when buying a large high risk facility of any kind) and the lack of promised south-side [aviation] development thus far is bad, Peels response today came across with an element of fear about it (or perhaps just frustration at interference from individuals whose business it is none of) and ultimately there are things that need to change.
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Peel motives - land company - Tokenhouse
Peel are a land company, thats how they make money. Buy cheap land as in the case of Teesside Airport (very cheap) and develop it. The airport side of Tokenhouse Ltd is a fraction of the company.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peel_Group
Tokenhouse Ltd are based in the Isle of Man and are the ultimate PARENT company of Peel. This news piece gives you an idea of what they are all about.
Revealed: how the company regenerating the Clyde pays as little tax as possible | HeraldScotland
I doubt that Peel would have been given the recent planning permission to build any houses near the DTVA terminal due to public opposition IF they had closed DTVA before now.
By sending a large airline company packing saying they don't want that type of holiday business makes no sense at all, unless of course they want to just have the place ticking over until they get more houses around the airport site
Looking at Tokenhouse Ltd it seems to be a network of companies and individuals.
https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/82010602
Incorporated 9 years ago. https://opencorporates.com/companies/im/004056V
Press are also looking at the companies activities. Nerve 18 - Peel under the spotlight
Assets of £6.6 BILLION - https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknF...eel_Group.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Peel_Group
Tokenhouse Ltd are based in the Isle of Man and are the ultimate PARENT company of Peel. This news piece gives you an idea of what they are all about.
Revealed: how the company regenerating the Clyde pays as little tax as possible | HeraldScotland
I doubt that Peel would have been given the recent planning permission to build any houses near the DTVA terminal due to public opposition IF they had closed DTVA before now.
By sending a large airline company packing saying they don't want that type of holiday business makes no sense at all, unless of course they want to just have the place ticking over until they get more houses around the airport site
Looking at Tokenhouse Ltd it seems to be a network of companies and individuals.
https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/82010602
Incorporated 9 years ago. https://opencorporates.com/companies/im/004056V
Press are also looking at the companies activities. Nerve 18 - Peel under the spotlight
Assets of £6.6 BILLION - https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknF...eel_Group.html