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Old 4th May 2018, 20:11
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And therein is the answer. Why should the Mayor pay £500k so you can drive a few miles less to go on your holiday? What economic benefit and how many jobs does you heading to Majorca for a week bring to the Teeside area?
Oh yes I can understand that argument, but why shouldn't Durham Tees Valley just have some holiday flights to serve the local market .. that what was on the table so just using it as an example.

So if the Mayor is to pay millions of pounds to buy the airport do you think he will be able to attract flights to London, Frankfurt, Paris, Bristol.. and loads of other business destinations?
Or will the first flights be leisure flights? If you look on the Save Teesside Airport facebook page as to what the people want - it is to fly from their local airport on their holiday..

Anyway I have a solution - Peel should try and bury the bad news and just pay the £500k themselves and get the new flights announced!
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Anyone in the rest of the UK would suggest NCL IS your local airport - it's only 40 miles away.... look at the distance from E London or Oxford to LHR or N London to LGW for example
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Why should they? Not necessarily anybody to blame, it's a different world now as the airlines look to reduce costs and concentrate on their major bases.
But TUI did want to return but Peel slammed the door in their face!
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Why did Carlisle get millions recently and other local airports have had millions in grants from all over.
Look at the routes being offered from Carlisle. They are not taking locals away to the sunny beaches of the Med. The tourist board is doing a lot of promotion in Essex and London for Lake District holidays and the chambers of commerce etc up in Cumbria are very supportive. Whatever you think of any grants received and the amounts, and regardless of whether the venture will prove to be a success, you can see some tangible benefits for the local economy. That cannot be said for a based 737 going off to Ibiza, Tenerife etc.
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But TUI did want to return but Peel slammed the door in their face!
Peel most certainly did not! It's clearly TUI who the Mayor blocked for 2019 and hopefully back with more success for 2020
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"Essex and London for Lake District holidays" = train or car - landing in Carlisle isn't the lake District - you have to hire a car when you arrive - factor time and cost of that in and you might as well drive from Essex TBH
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Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
"Essex and London for Lake District holidays" = train or car - landing in Carlisle isn't the lake District - you have to hire a car when you arrive - factor time and cost of that in and you might as well drive from Essex TBH
Maybe so but the flights have provided a platform for marketing the area to an extent I’ve not seen before. Whether they arrive by plane or not is immaterial, there are only 70 or so seats each way anyway.

Having taken SEN-MAN a couple of times now I can tell you it does save time from Essex, and I’d suggest the total door to door time of the flight from Carlisle area to central London does make it worthwhile and is probably also competitive on cost if you’re travelling alone.
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Peel most certainly did not! It's clearly TUI who the Mayor blocked for 2019 and hopefully back with more success for 2020
I think oldart is talking about the time Peel agreed a contract with Thomson and then cancelled it because they'd got their sums wrong.

And can we take discussions about how long it takes to get to the Lake District to the Carlisle thread?
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I think oldart is talking about the time Peel agreed a contract with Thomson and then cancelled it because they'd got their sums wrong.
Either way his phraseology is way off
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[QUOTE=SWBKCB;10138834]I think oldart is talking about the time Peel agreed a contract with Thomson and then cancelled it because they'd got their sums wrong.

Thank you SWBKCB, that's correct. The facts were there, no matter what phraseology you use.
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Doesn't mean they "slammed the door in their face", TUI management are no doubt intelligent business people, and will have understood the reasoning
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Just like when bmiBaby moved out? DTVA were very understanding about that.

Breaking a contract is breaking a contract, whatever the reason.
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Slight quibble with you on that but I won't fight that particular battle now
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Bmi baby moved out and suffered the consequences! Presume Thomson didn't want to go to court or came to an agreement.
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Whatever ...dealing with DTV and PEEL, Seems on the surface to be fraught with controversy and problems.

recap....BMI,Globespan,Thomson,Balkan,Omega,Loganair ,Newmarket,et al...for what ever reason..came and went...is there a common denominator here?
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No but the list is bigger, Beafer might be able to dig out the reasons back to why the RAF left, all secret back handers of course. Did the RAF sell the airfield off too cheap to the councils in the first place!

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Old 7th May 2018, 08:53
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No but the list is bigger, Beafer might be able to dig out the reasons back to why the RAF left, all secret back handers of course. Did the RAF sell the airfield off too cheap to the councils in the first place!
Good point, the RAF did have QRA at MSG, maybe the same reason that Leconfield closed, then Binbrook. Some councils did take the opportunity to keep an airfield running, namely at Teesside, maybe we would complain if the local councils payed too much in the first place.
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And it’s goodnight from us?

well you PEEL guys look like you may have to club together for a leaving card soon....
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And it’s goodnight from us?

well you PEEL guys look like you may have to club together for a leaving card soon....
I think this cryptic post relates to this Northern Echo story:

Deal to bring Durham Tees Valley Airport into public ownership moves step closer

The Mayor said:
I’m pleased to be able to say negotiations have moved onto a formal and advanced stage and we have signed a formal non-disclosure agreement which allows us to get into the detail of what the proposal might look like on buying the airport, but we will also have to take a hiatus on what we are able to broadcast to people
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Update from the Mayor's speech in which he refers to his plans for MME:

I am also pleased to announce that a separate NDA has been signed with a well-established airport operator who is interested in partnering with me.
I really wish I could say more, and I hope to in due course, but what is clear is we’re moving in the right direction.
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