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Old 15th Apr 2020, 10:15
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Originally Posted by spacedog View Post
Very lucky to get 1 flight a day by 1st May.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no.
When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions.
Emirates restart now put back to 2nd June
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 10:20
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Emirates restart now put back to 2nd June
No surprise there then! I wonder how much additional cash flow that false start of 1st May has bought them.
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 18:34
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I doubt EK or QR will be back at BHX for the foreseeable future, if at all. They rely on filling their planes with connecting pax. With borders all over the world closed or at best restricted for a long time to come, I just don't think they'll be able to fill a 380 or 777. Not saying nobody will be flying over the summer but there will be nowhere near the numbers to make it economical from anywhere except London.

Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021.

If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn?


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Old 15th Apr 2020, 19:56
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Originally Posted by GayFriendly View Post
I doubt EK or QR will be back at BHX for the foreseeable future, if at all. They rely on filling their planes with connecting pax. With borders all over the world closed or at best restricted for a long time to come, I just don't think they'll be able to fill a 380 or 777. Not saying nobody will be flying over the summer but there will be nowhere near the numbers to make it economical from anywhere except London.

Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021.

If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn?
EK now saying daily from 1 May with 380 and second flight a month later
we shall see
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Old 15th Apr 2020, 22:11
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People talk about the virus being brought under control. Just explain to me how? Don't kid yourselves, it will be around for a long time yet. If people start to travel again before there's either an effective vaccine, or medication to combat the virus if you catch it, it will take no time at all for a second wave to strike.
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Old 16th Apr 2020, 07:30
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EK now saying daily from 1 May with 380 and second flight a month later
we shall see
EK seem to be changing their schedules every day.

I agree with GayFriendly, I can't see the the airport picking up anytime soon. Regarding EK I feel LHR will have the majority of flights with MAN being next. Remembering the last thing of folk's minds is travel. Many are furloughed or even worse will lose their jobs. This may even have an effect on Christmas travel.

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Old 16th Apr 2020, 21:21
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This may even have an effect on Christmas travel.
I don't have any doubt about that. Many things in life will get nowhere near like we are used to until a vaccine is found, and that wont be in 2020
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Old 16th Apr 2020, 22:29
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Did you know that vaccines for existing flus only work for an average of 44% of those who take it? It's more effective for the young (but still only about 65%) and less effective for the elderly (about 16%). Interesting that.
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Pistonprop View Post
Did you know that vaccines for existing flus only work for an average of 44% of those who take it? It's more effective for the young (but still only about 65%) and less effective for the elderly (about 16%). Interesting that.
It's well known that as the seasonal flu virus mutates constantly the annual vaccine is a "best guess" for the upcoming winter based upon the experience of the southern hemisphere winter, and i guess vice versa. Covid-19 may, or may not behave in the same way. However eventually public policy will have to become less risk averse, and this will probably come about through the development of anti-viral treatments rather than necessarily through vaccines.


Whatever it's all but inevitable that life will change medium to long term, and an indication of that, for the commercial aviation industry, is the forecast that those areas of the country, such as Crawlry that are very dependent upon commercial aviation will suffer economically worse than many other areas.
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 15:04
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It's well known that as the seasonal flu virus mutates constantly the annual vaccine is a "best guess" for the upcoming winter based upon the experience of the southern hemisphere winter, and i guess vice versa. Covid-19 may, or may not behave in the same way. ...
There are already three flavours of Corvid-19 (A, B & C). Interesting the USA is suffering with A, Canada and most of europe has B ... I did see a world map somewhere...

I'm just wondering if it's going to just kill off those who are most susceptible to the infection ... yet another little evolutionary step.
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Old 17th Apr 2020, 15:25
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The three variants are very similar
Just two mutations separate A and B, and one more to C, which reached Europe via Singapore. It seems more stable than flu and I'm sure that the scientists will create a vaccine which blocks all them.
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Old 29th Apr 2020, 16:00
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Thumbs up easyJet

Additional flights from September 2020.
Edinburgh & Glasgow increase to 3 daily (except Saturday 2) - 20 flights per week.
Belfast International increases to Sunday 4, Monday 4, Tuesday 3, Wednesday 4, Thursday 4, Friday 5, Saturday 3 - 27 flights per week.
Further increases for the winter, from the 25 October, to Belfast International:
Sunday remains 4, Monday increases to 6, Tuesday increases to 4, Wednesday increases to 5, Thursday remains 4, Friday increases to 6, Saturday remains 3 - 32 flights per week.
All away based aircraft!
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Old 29th Apr 2020, 21:40
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BHXBOY,

great news about easyJet - Aside from Naples, Do you know of any other proposed new routes into BHX from easyJet ?

Thank you
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Old 29th Apr 2020, 22:14
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ib26uk,

I have no knowledge of any new easyJet routes - like many, I live in hope and wait!
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Old 1st May 2020, 09:06
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Airport hours reduced again

08:00 - 23:59 until 30th June
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Old 1st May 2020, 10:46
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Airport hours reduced again

08:00 - 23:59 until 30th June
But will they finally use this time to fix the glidepath on R33?
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Old 1st May 2020, 12:34
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I'm not sure that there is any great need to do it. The Rnav approach is normally good enough, the Loc/Dme is available. Many aircraft have integrated approach navigation that turns these in to virtual ILS anyhow. The minima is higher than a cat 1 ILS but when the visibility is bad enough for it to be an issue then a switch to RW15 with a small tailwind is considered. I have done that a few times.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
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Old 1st May 2020, 14:15
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Originally Posted by Gentle Climb View Post
I'm not sure that there is any great need to do it. The Rnav approach is normally good enough, the Loc/Dme is available. Many aircraft have integrated approach navigation that turns these in to virtual ILS anyhow. The minima is higher than a cat 1 ILS but when the visibility is bad enough for it to be an issue then a switch to RW15 with a small tailwind is considered. I have done that a few times.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
That sounds very reasonable, after all when vis. is low, then the wind is generally light and switching to RW15 should be no great issue. One wonders therefore why BHX doesn't put the RW33 ILS on Ebay, and just retain the facility on '15'? Being a bit facetious there perhaps!
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Old 1st May 2020, 23:00
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33 ILS

Originally Posted by Gentle Climb View Post
I'm not sure that there is any great need to do it. The Rnav approach is normally good enough, the Loc/Dme is available. Many aircraft have integrated approach navigation that turns these in to virtual ILS anyhow. The minima is higher than a cat 1 ILS but when the visibility is bad enough for it to be an issue then a switch to RW15 with a small tailwind is considered. I have done that a few times.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
Without having any actual stats I would say the number of diversions due to the lack of 33 ILS is still in single figures but whether this is just luck rather than judgement I can't say but in my opinion most issues arise around the non-based airlines which is understandable.

There have been many delays, go-arounds and holding and certainly enough to ask questions why it hasn't been resolved and I don't like BHX's attitude to when it is mentioned either but that is another story.

Wizz restart Budapest tomorrow twice weekly which should make it a busy day with KLM, Ryanair Dublin and an Aegean repat flight assuming they all operate.

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Old 3rd May 2020, 10:14
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Looks like Naples has been withdrawn.
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