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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: W. Midlands
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Originally Posted by spacedog
Very lucky to get 1 flight a day by 1st May.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no.
When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions.
Firstly we will still be under lockdown. The government advice on travel is no no no.
When the lockdown is lifted EK will resume services to the main hubs firstly LHR then Man followed by one of the two in Scotland. Remember it takes a lot of people to fill a A380 or 777-300. Emirates would rather fly 3 full 380 into LHR than 5 or 6 1/4 full aircraft to the regions.
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I doubt EK or QR will be back at BHX for the foreseeable future, if at all. They rely on filling their planes with connecting pax. With borders all over the world closed or at best restricted for a long time to come, I just don't think they'll be able to fill a 380 or 777. Not saying nobody will be flying over the summer but there will be nowhere near the numbers to make it economical from anywhere except London.
Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021.
If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn?
Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021.
If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn?
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Originally Posted by GayFriendly
I doubt EK or QR will be back at BHX for the foreseeable future, if at all. They rely on filling their planes with connecting pax. With borders all over the world closed or at best restricted for a long time to come, I just don't think they'll be able to fill a 380 or 777. Not saying nobody will be flying over the summer but there will be nowhere near the numbers to make it economical from anywhere except London.
Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021.
If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn?
Nobody can predict what is going to happen but if I was forced to make a prediction for BHX, I think the best we can hope for (making major assumptions that the virus has peaked and travel is permitted into Europe without too many restrictions and there is no second wave of infection here or abroad) is a small Jet2 programme, limited EI, FR and Wizz, limited LH/KL/AF and some domestics if LM, GR etc survive, others like LX, SK, may come back 2021.
If the virus cannot be bought under better control over the next month or two, maybe no flying at all from BHX and the vast majority of UK airports until the autumn?
we shall see
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People talk about the virus being brought under control. Just explain to me how? Don't kid yourselves, it will be around for a long time yet. If people start to travel again before there's either an effective vaccine, or medication to combat the virus if you catch it, it will take no time at all for a second wave to strike.
Join Date: Feb 2003
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EK now saying daily from 1 May with 380 and second flight a month later
we shall see
we shall see
I agree with GayFriendly, I can't see the the airport picking up anytime soon. Regarding EK I feel LHR will have the majority of flights with MAN being next. Remembering the last thing of folk's minds is travel. Many are furloughed or even worse will lose their jobs. This may even have an effect on Christmas travel.
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Originally Posted by crewmeal
This may even have an effect on Christmas travel.
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Did you know that vaccines for existing flus only work for an average of 44% of those who take it? It's more effective for the young (but still only about 65%) and less effective for the elderly (about 16%). Interesting that.
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Originally Posted by Pistonprop
Did you know that vaccines for existing flus only work for an average of 44% of those who take it? It's more effective for the young (but still only about 65%) and less effective for the elderly (about 16%). Interesting that.
Whatever it's all but inevitable that life will change medium to long term, and an indication of that, for the commercial aviation industry, is the forecast that those areas of the country, such as Crawlry that are very dependent upon commercial aviation will suffer economically worse than many other areas.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
It's well known that as the seasonal flu virus mutates constantly the annual vaccine is a "best guess" for the upcoming winter based upon the experience of the southern hemisphere winter, and i guess vice versa. Covid-19 may, or may not behave in the same way. ...
I'm just wondering if it's going to just kill off those who are most susceptible to the infection ... yet another little evolutionary step.
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The three variants are very similar
Just two mutations separate A and B, and one more to C, which reached Europe via Singapore. It seems more stable than flu and I'm sure that the scientists will create a vaccine which blocks all them.
Just two mutations separate A and B, and one more to C, which reached Europe via Singapore. It seems more stable than flu and I'm sure that the scientists will create a vaccine which blocks all them.
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Additional flights from September 2020.
Edinburgh & Glasgow increase to 3 daily (except Saturday 2) - 20 flights per week.
Belfast International increases to Sunday 4, Monday 4, Tuesday 3, Wednesday 4, Thursday 4, Friday 5, Saturday 3 - 27 flights per week.
Further increases for the winter, from the 25 October, to Belfast International:
Sunday remains 4, Monday increases to 6, Tuesday increases to 4, Wednesday increases to 5, Thursday remains 4, Friday increases to 6, Saturday remains 3 - 32 flights per week.
All away based aircraft!
Edinburgh & Glasgow increase to 3 daily (except Saturday 2) - 20 flights per week.
Belfast International increases to Sunday 4, Monday 4, Tuesday 3, Wednesday 4, Thursday 4, Friday 5, Saturday 3 - 27 flights per week.
Further increases for the winter, from the 25 October, to Belfast International:
Sunday remains 4, Monday increases to 6, Tuesday increases to 4, Wednesday increases to 5, Thursday remains 4, Friday increases to 6, Saturday remains 3 - 32 flights per week.
All away based aircraft!
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I'm not sure that there is any great need to do it. The Rnav approach is normally good enough, the Loc/Dme is available. Many aircraft have integrated approach navigation that turns these in to virtual ILS anyhow. The minima is higher than a cat 1 ILS but when the visibility is bad enough for it to be an issue then a switch to RW15 with a small tailwind is considered. I have done that a few times.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
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Originally Posted by Gentle Climb
I'm not sure that there is any great need to do it. The Rnav approach is normally good enough, the Loc/Dme is available. Many aircraft have integrated approach navigation that turns these in to virtual ILS anyhow. The minima is higher than a cat 1 ILS but when the visibility is bad enough for it to be an issue then a switch to RW15 with a small tailwind is considered. I have done that a few times.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
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Originally Posted by Gentle Climb
I'm not sure that there is any great need to do it. The Rnav approach is normally good enough, the Loc/Dme is available. Many aircraft have integrated approach navigation that turns these in to virtual ILS anyhow. The minima is higher than a cat 1 ILS but when the visibility is bad enough for it to be an issue then a switch to RW15 with a small tailwind is considered. I have done that a few times.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
How many aircraft have failed to get in to BHX since the G/P became u/s? I don't know but I cant think it is that many.
There have been many delays, go-arounds and holding and certainly enough to ask questions why it hasn't been resolved and I don't like BHX's attitude to when it is mentioned either but that is another story.
Wizz restart Budapest tomorrow twice weekly which should make it a busy day with KLM, Ryanair Dublin and an Aegean repat flight assuming they all operate.
Pete
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