Manchester-2

[LFC22]

Originally Posted by Council Van

Does Manchester and it surrounding towns have big Indian population? I always thought they we're more of Pakistani decent.

Very high concentration of Indian population in places such as Blackburn, Oldham, Bolton and Batley (West Yorkshire)

[eye2eye5]

Originally Posted by LFC22

Very high concentration of Indian population in places such as Blackburn, Oldham, Bolton and Batley (West Yorkshire)

see details in post 1822 which relates to Greater Manchester.

[Plane.Silly]

Originally Posted by eye2eye5

see details in post 1844 which relates to Greater Manchester.

Given that your post is #1822, i would if i could

I presume you mean this one (#1815)
https://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/599775-manchester-2-a.html#post10178137

[LAX_LHR]

Looks like VS could be increasing BOS from 2 to 4 weekly next summer. The airport timetable showing flights on Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun.

[roverman]

Originally Posted by LAX_LHR

Looks like VS could be increasing BOS from 2 to 4 weekly next summer. The airport timetable showing flights on Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun.

Last month's press release said BOS was going to 3 per week from May 25th but I think a commentator on this forum noted a gap in aircraft utilisation which could enable some additional flying.

And so the Battle of The Atlantic rages on, with Virgin bringing in reinforcements to The Boston Tea Party, having retreated from SFO to take on Thomas Cook directly at Los Angeles. We'll see How The West Was Won next summer. Slightly frustrating that our two great hopes in the MAN-USA market are blotting each other out on these routes. I know they can't collude on who flies where and when but one hopes that market forces will ultimately deliver strong services to key cities on a year-round basis.

[MAN2SIN2BKK2FRA]

Originally Posted by RAS_2001

What happened to the Thai Airways rumours, have they all been flushed down the plug hole?

It was mentioned once in an article stating that they planned on commencing a 4x weekly service to BKK, but was reported nowhere else.

TG can't make their minds up on what plane to fly on what route and then stick to the decision so starting a new route must be a brain numbing decision for them to make. Here at FRA the summer service has brought in 2 x 777W per day instead of 1 x A380 and 1 x A350. I lay odds that they are stuck arguing on whether they use B788, B789, A350, B772 or B77W on MAN

[110Cornets]

Originally Posted by MAN2SIN2BKK2FRA

TG can't make their minds up on what plane to fly on what route and then stick to the decision so starting a new route must be a brain numbing decision for them to make. Here at FRA the summer service has brought in 2 x 777W per day instead of 1 x A380 and 1 x A350. I lay odds that they are stuck arguing on whether they use B788, B789, A350, B772 or B77W on MAN

You’re correct they can’t decide on anything....but MAN’s been on their list for a long time. And it’s going to happen soon. Hopefully this year.... but hey. TG.

787 is the plane. 4 weekly, I heard.

[RAS_2001]

Just realized that Etihad are using a 787-9 into Manchester tomorrow morning, is this a one off or will there be more to come?

[pholling]

Originally Posted by Council Van

One, I only need one to put my flight bag, company ipad and uniform jacket in. They all fit in very easily with nothing on top of one another but of course our well trained security personal know better and insist that I use several.
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While one data point does not disprove the null hypothesis you would be one of those well versed in the wonders of airport security. It is absolutely possible to get through on one or two trays, especially at Manchester where they are quite large, even with an infant we only used 3 most of the time. However, the disorganisation of so many seems to make this near impossible for lots of people. I agree that the staff at Manchester are often not particularly helpful. Though from my limited observation that seems to be inversely proportional to how busy it is. When things are quiet you can afford to use a dozen trays and accidentally leave liquids in your bag. When they are swamped you need efficient processing, something that seems to fall apart in MAN. That being said my last few trips though have been fine, but I tend to go through at less busy hours. My last trip thought T2 security, which was on a Saturday at 08:45 was smooth, the people I interacted with were pleasant and some I observed were friendly, it was not particularly busy though. I have seen the T1 and T3 cattle calls and quite rude staff. I have also seen a complete miss-staffing of T1 security where they had only 1 female security agent one two lanes and half the travellers passing through were women.

I will say that I avoid the airport, and certain terminals especially, on given days and at certain times. However, even my worst experiences have not been as bad as some of the ones I had at US airports when travelling several times a week. 4+ hour security lines at ATL (thankfully those are generally in the past) make the disasters at MAN seem quaint.

Originally Posted by Council Van

I did once query the need for more than one tray and the lady was quick to point out how she had been doing the job for nearly a whole year without actually giving me a proper answer.

A whole year in airport security, that could be a record at Manchester as who would tolerate that awful position and how badly they are treated by management for so long?

(Oddly I have not seen her since)

But who am I to argue, I'm just some some dumb pilot who sits at the front of 100T of aluminium often containing 20 odd T of fuel so I know nothing about aviation and flight safety do I?

Airport security, take it with laugh and good humour............
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I see this all the time, not just with the security theatre.

[LFC22]

These reviews are very telling. Could explain why security staff are rude and uninterested in their job.

https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Manches...-Group/reviews

[RAS_2001]

Originally Posted by sparkysam

Perfectly said Roverman, we are so lucky to have OUR airport on the doorstep. I live in Stockport so its a small distance to worldwide services. You are correct it depends on when you travel,i have been through twice on return trips since the new year and they were stress free experiences. I am traveling again on Thursday through terminal 1, i may comment on my experience at a later date. Cheers Sam

Hopefully the new terminal should cater for the syressed-out, tumultuous people's and the chaotic nature of both T1 and T2 at this current momne tin time.

Although time will tell...

I have high hopes for the new terminal and I believe it will bolster opportunity in the North on the whole; not just within Manchester itself. With easier transportation and access to higher/better quality facilities should also be a contributing factor to burst the growth of the North and Britain's economy.

[ZOOKER]

polling,

I don't think the majority of those using Manch' care about 'data points' and 'null hypotheses'......They just want to get to duty free and up in the sky.

[RAS_2001]

Out of interest, has there ever been a direct servuce from Manchester to YUL?

[Porky Speedpig]

Strictly speaking yes, in that direct does not mean "non stop" but "same plane service" in airline speak - BA637 MAN PIK YUL/YMX in the 60s and 70s - VC10/B747

[pwalhx]

Originally Posted by RAS_2001

Out of interest, has there ever been a direct servuce from Manchester to YUL?

I am pretty sure in my early days at the airport in the 70's that BA operated into Montreal but I stand to be corrected.

[MARK9263]

Montreal was served from MAN by BOAC/BA from 1958 until October 1979, usually tagged on with the YYZ operation. Between 1976-1979 it was served as a stand-alone flight during the summer months.

[Mr A Tis]

Yes for many years the VC10 did MAN- New York, Antigua & Barbados, whilst the 707 went MAN to Montreal & onwards to Toronto.

[MARK9263]

The Caribbean connection ended in March 1974, co-inciding with the withdrawal of the standard VC-10s

[roverman]

Originally Posted by MARK9263

Montreal was served from MAN by BOAC/BA from 1958 until October 1979, usually tagged on with the YYZ operation. Between 1976-1979 it was served as a stand-alone flight during the summer months.

Indeed, it was a seasonally non-stop service in the late 1970s operated by a mix of B707/VC10 and B747, routing onwards to Toronto. BA 083/082, I seem to recall was the number. The demand has never been that strong I assume since the bulk of the historic links with Montreal are in the French-speaking world, although the city is home to a number of international agencies, most notably our own ICAO.

[zed3]

Does anyone remember the BOAC callsign from MAN to JFK in the late sixties... I think it was Speedbird 537/538 with a B707 and/or VC10 through EGPK. Happy days. I remember the call through fl100 at Polehill northbound!