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T3 mid morning on Sunday was an absolute breeze.
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As you say Manchester has a large number of based aircraft - I understand it's 88 including VIR & TCX long-haul but excluding nightstoppers such as BAW & KLM. No wonder there are high numbers of 1st wave departures.
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But your 5,000 per hour is over three terminals. So in T1 for instance, you might say 2,000 passengers per hour which is 33 per minute. A lot, but if they use 6 security lanes, that is say 6 per minute per lane. Not totally impossible and if they opened more lanes, the flow would be faster and people would have longer time in duty-free or buying food.
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But your 5,000 per hour is over three terminals. So in T1 for instance, you might say 2,000 passengers per hour which is 33 per minute. A lot, but if they use 6 security lanes, that is say 6 per minute per lane. Not totally impossible and if they opened more lanes, the flow would be faster and people would have longer time in duty-free or buying food.
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With the rumours that Jet2 will move more flights over to T2 in 2019 hopefully it'll help stop T1 from hitting that big number.
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With the rumours that Jet2 will move more flights over to T2 in 2019 hopefully it'll help stop T1 from hitting that big number.
Following on from that, does anyone know any more about the destinations moving over to T2?
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Actually the average seating capacity is closer to 210 per aircraft, rather than 180. Don’t forget out of the c.90 aircraft based, 20 are wide bodies and a further 20 are A321/B757s.
By my reckoning the based capacity equates to over 19,000 seats - over half of this at T1. With declared terminal capacity of 3000 departing pax per hour at T1, the first wave needs to stretch over almost 3.5 hours. This also doesn’t factor in night stopping LH flights.
Of course this assumes every seat is taken, but as we approach peak summer the likelihood is they pretty much will be.
By my reckoning the based capacity equates to over 19,000 seats - over half of this at T1. With declared terminal capacity of 3000 departing pax per hour at T1, the first wave needs to stretch over almost 3.5 hours. This also doesn’t factor in night stopping LH flights.
Of course this assumes every seat is taken, but as we approach peak summer the likelihood is they pretty much will be.
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Nothing at all wrong with having based planes - in fact they create good well paid jobs for the local economy. What is wrong is MAN management's inability to plan and implement a strategy for dealing with the consequences.
T1 is woefully inadequate for handling the number of passengers it already does - although I suspect if all the security lanes were fully open and staffed adequately, that part of the operation might just about cope. Am I right in stating that T1 at MAN would still be the biggest airport outside London in its own right?
Whatever, the wrecking ball can't come soon enough for this particular lashed together set of compromises..
Going through there first thing Sunday morning for another trip - dreading it.
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T1 is woefully inadequate for handling the number of passengers it already does - although I suspect if all the security lanes were fully open and staffed adequately, that part of the operation might just about cope. Am I right in stating that T1 at MAN would still be the biggest airport outside London in its own right?
Whatever, the wrecking ball can't come soon enough for this particular lashed together set of compromises..
Going through there first thing Sunday morning for another trip - dreading it.
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Actually the average seating capacity is closer to 210 per aircraft, rather than 180. Don’t forget out of the c.90 aircraft based, 20 are wide bodies and a further 20 are A321/B757s.
By my reckoning the based capacity equates to over 19,000 seats - over half of this at T1. With declared terminal capacity of 3000 departing pax per hour at T1, the first wave needs to stretch over almost 3.5 hours. This also doesn’t factor in night stopping LH flights.
Of course this assumes every seat is taken, but as we approach peak summer the likelihood is they pretty much will be.
By my reckoning the based capacity equates to over 19,000 seats - over half of this at T1. With declared terminal capacity of 3000 departing pax per hour at T1, the first wave needs to stretch over almost 3.5 hours. This also doesn’t factor in night stopping LH flights.
Of course this assumes every seat is taken, but as we approach peak summer the likelihood is they pretty much will be.
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The memo to staff that went out indicated JetParks one, which is that car park on thorley Lane.
jetparks 2 is the car park across the road (enterprise way) and the one under short finals (shadow moss road) is called jetparks ringway.
some staff are also being allocated spaces in T1/T3 midstay so maybe that’s how they intend to squeeeze everyone into JP1?
jetparks 2 is the car park across the road (enterprise way) and the one under short finals (shadow moss road) is called jetparks ringway.
some staff are also being allocated spaces in T1/T3 midstay so maybe that’s how they intend to squeeeze everyone into JP1?
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I noticed in the latest "State Of The Nation" PR piece, the airport CEO suggested capacity will rise to 45m with the new TP.
We appear to have quietly lost 10m ! All the previous PR puff pieces suggested capacity would ACTUALLY rise to 55m.
Can I launch an appeal for the missing 10m !
We appear to have quietly lost 10m ! All the previous PR puff pieces suggested capacity would ACTUALLY rise to 55m.
Can I launch an appeal for the missing 10m !
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45m is probably a better number. No pint trying to improve the passenger experience at one end and then try and cram them in like sardines at the other end. 45m should see MAN until about 2030 and then building on the T1/3 site can boost the capacity again.
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I noticed in the latest "State Of The Nation" PR piece, the airport CEO suggested capacity will rise to 45m with the new TP.<br /><br />We appear to have quietly lost 10m ! All the previous PR puff pieces suggested capacity would ACTUALLY rise to 55m.<br /><br />Can I launch an appeal for the missing 10m !
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FWIW (not a lot I know!) breezed through security just now. In through the turnstiles at 0710, out the other side before 0725. Staff a bit grumpy though- that sort of thing usually filters down from the superiors so perhaps the head of security should be looking at how he works.
I expected a lot more queuing as despite being Sunday we are still due out in the middle of the TCX long haul/ Etihad/ Emirates 380 rush.
I expected a lot more queuing as despite being Sunday we are still due out in the middle of the TCX long haul/ Etihad/ Emirates 380 rush.
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Hammer blow by xxxxs in Whitehall to aspirations of transport connectivity to Man Airport as Trans Penine electrification is about to get cancelled.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/61267934-7ca0-11e8-8ce4-0bcac63244b2
The North should introduce it's own National Anthem
"we've been shafted again"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/61267934-7ca0-11e8-8ce4-0bcac63244b2
The North should introduce it's own National Anthem
"we've been shafted again"
