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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 08:46
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Looks like the weekly Adria service to Ljubljana switches to Liverpool for 2020 and increases to 2 x weekly
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Old 3rd Sep 2019, 14:24
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If so, it's a great opportunity for EZY to jump on to the route as they already have a small operation out of LJU
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 19:48
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One of the new stands?

MEN - Plane delayed at Manchester Airport after passenger claims the wing 'clipped a fence'
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 14:47
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Terminal 1

Forgive me if I have not taken notice of previous posts but what are the plans and timescales for T1? I am a regular user of the “cupboard” that exists for Swiss behind the main check in desks. You go right when you descend down the short escalator to the check in area then go round the back of the last check in desk!! Despite all the criticisms of this airport only exactly a week ago I landed at 1800 from Zurich and even after having to wait for my bag was on the station platform at 1835!!
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 15:29
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Originally Posted by Robin757 View Post
Forgive me if I have not taken notice of previous posts but what are the plans and timescales for T1? I am a regular user of the “cupboard” that exists for Swiss behind the main check in desks. You go right when you descend down the short escalator to the check in area then go round the back of the last check in desk!! Despite all the criticisms of this airport only exactly a week ago I landed at 1800 from Zurich and even after having to wait for my bag was on the station platform at 1835!!
I'm glad to hear another voice, other than Shed-on-a-pole, saying that they have managed to get through UK Border Force in an acceptable length of time!
I assume you are referring to coming down the escalator from the Skylink? If memory serves me correctly you should be able to cut through to the Swiss check-in desks by going to the immediate left of the right-hand bank of main check-in desks, rather than - as you state - going to the far end.

Anyway, happy travels.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 19:51
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I'm glad to hear another voice, other than Shed-on-a-pole, saying that they have managed to get through UK Border Force in an acceptable length of time!
I assume you are referring to coming down the escalator from the Skylink? If memory serves me correctly you should be able to cut through to the Swiss check-in desks by going to the immediate left of the right-hand bank of main check-in desks, rather than - as you state - going to the far end.

Anyway, happy travels.
Scottie Dog I use T1 about once a month and I may be wrong, but I thought to access the LH/LX etc check in desks, you can only do this by walking through the main check in hall, coming from the skylink, down the escalator and then through the main check in hall, which can be a nightmare to navigate when it’s busy!
That “cupboard” isn’t nice, feel for the staff working there, no windows at all! Hope the new T2 check in and security has at least some natural light?!

Robin757 timescale for T1 as far as I am aware is after 2024, although it’s fate is yet to be decided. My wishful thought is complete demolition and of the piers, were in 2019, how much longer can a 1960’s pier B go on for?! It embarrasses me when I see the A380 at the end!
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 20:07
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Oh well my age must be catching up with me, and my memory going (more than my good lady tells me nearly every day!!).
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 20:40
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Oh deary deary me ! The latest Which report based on passenger survey responses, shows a DISMAL performance by Manchester yet again, to which Management

appear to totally ignore year after year! Here is the table, and low and behold we are in it three times along with another MA success - Stansted.

Large airports - Ten million or more passengers per year.
Airport Queues for bag drop.
Queues at security.
Queues at passport control.
Baggage reclaim.
Seating.
Toilets.
Customer score
66% London Heathrow T5 (655)
65% Birmingham (342)
64% London Heathrow T2 (274)
61% Edinburgh (213)
59% London Gatwick North (655)
59% London Gatwick South (565)
59% London Heathrow T3 (437)
57% London Heathrow T4 (154)
52% Manchester T2 (229)
50% Manchester T1 (278)
49% London Stansted (381)
47% Manchester T3 (168)
43% London Luton (273) 43%

Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/airp...ge-uk-airports - Which?

Having used Terminal 3 just the other day myself, I wouldn't even give it 47%. I had the unfortunate need to use the "Mens room " ! Boy what a horrible Stench greated me, of stale urine! In an area that gets more than its fair share of rain, it appears that there is a Water shortage in the Toilet blocks, - absolutely dreadful.

A race to the BOTTOM well and truly being won, hands down by MA Plc. To be custodians of four of the bottom 5 places, they must be the worst group of Airport Management ever !


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Old 10th Sep 2019, 09:51
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No surprise that the usual suspect chimes up when MAN pops up in a discredited, hatchet job on airports but somehow FAILED to find this:

" This is the First Annual Edition of the European Consumer Airport Index, seeking to rank Europe’s most passenger-friendly airports. We reached out to all of Europe’s Top 30 airports and asked for relevant data, but also found data in annual reports, online statistics, and conducted our own research to collect all necessary information. "

OVERALL SCORE: TOP 10 AIRPORTS FOR PASSENGER-FRIENDLINESS IN EUROPE:

Rank Airport
  1. Brussels Airport
  2. Zurich Airport
  3. Düsseldorf Airport
  4. Madrid–Barajas Airport
  5. Manchester Airport
"Starting a journey at one of the Top 10 airports promises more convenient travel to the airport and a good to great passenger experience at the airport. "

Europe's top 10 airports
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 10:13
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Originally Posted by Ringwayman View Post
No surprise that the usual suspect chimes up when MAN pops up in a discredited, hatchet job on airports but somehow FAILED to find this:

" This is the First Annual Edition of the European Consumer Airport Index, seeking to rank Europe’s most passenger-friendly airports. We reached out to all of Europe’s Top 30 airports and asked for relevant data, but also found data in annual reports, online statistics, and conducted our own research to collect all necessary information. "

OVERALL SCORE: TOP 10 AIRPORTS FOR PASSENGER-FRIENDLINESS IN EUROPE:

Rank Airport
  1. Brussels Airport
  2. Zurich Airport
  3. Düsseldorf Airport
  4. Madrid–Barajas Airport
  5. Manchester Airport
"Starting a journey at one of the Top 10 airports promises more convenient travel to the airport and a good to great passenger experience at the airport. "

Europe's top 10 airports
While it’s good to see some of Manchester’s plus points recognised, non of the indicators measured in this report actually cover the quality of the passenger experience. It basically says Manchester has good transport links, a wide choice of flights and lots of shops.
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 10:40
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While it’s good to see some of Manchester’s plus points recognised, non of the indicators measured in this report actually cover the quality of the passenger experience. It basically says Manchester has good transport links, a wide choice of flights and lots of shops.
And there was I thinking that "friendliness" was very much part of the passenger experience!
The introduction includes this: -
" and ranked them in terms of passenger experience, ranked according to a mix of factors ranging from location and transportation options to in-airport experience and flight network access.

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Old 10th Sep 2019, 11:19
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MANFOD, I suggest you read on to see what they mean by that - basically how many lounges are available and how many shops / restaurants per million passengers. There is no indication that they are measuring the experience of transitioning from check in through security and onto departures / boarding, or the arrivals ‘experience’.
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Old 10th Sep 2019, 20:39
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Originally Posted by Ringwayman View Post
No surprise that the usual suspect chimes up when MAN pops up in a discredited, hatchet job on airports but somehow FAILED to find this:

" This is the First Annual Edition of the European Consumer Airport Index, seeking to rank Europe’s most passenger-friendly airports. We reached out to all of Europe’s Top 30 airports and asked for relevant data, but also found data in annual reports, online statistics, and conducted our own research to collect all necessary information. "

OVERALL SCORE: TOP 10 AIRPORTS FOR PASSENGER-FRIENDLINESS IN EUROPE:

Rank Airport
  1. Brussels Airport
  2. Zurich Airport
  3. Düsseldorf Airport
  4. Madrid–Barajas Airport
  5. Manchester Airport
"Starting a journey at one of the Top 10 airports promises more convenient travel to the airport and a good to great passenger experience at the airport. "

Europe's top 10 airports
Friendly it is not, certainly not security at term 1....very rude from my experience.
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Old 11th Sep 2019, 21:29
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[QUOTE][No surprise that the usual suspect chimes up when MAN pops up in a discredited, hatchet job on airports/QUOTE]

Hey RINGWAYMAN. I suggest that you take off those rose coloured spectacles for just one moment and WAKE-UP.

Get on a Flybe aeromathingy and have a day out to visit Dusseldorf airport (And take some of MA Plc management with you) !

You'll find that this is an airport that has very similar numbers of passengers, with both Long Haul, Inclusive Tour Holiday, and low cost airlines, all using its single facilities.

Compared to Manchester it is simply light years ahead in the Passenger experience department in all aspects. I could list them but of course you'd find fault with that so I won't bother.

Manchester used to be like that some thirty years ago, it was a super airport to use and was my favourite, but alas it has been ruined by a shambolic management regime that has allowed the infrastructure of the terminals to deteriorate to an almost irrecoverable level and their development to be a series of ramshackled add-on afterthoughts. The new "terminal 4" down by the AVP is just another tin-pot idea done on the cheap, instead of incorporating it into the proper terminals, but that would require planning and a bit of thought?

I await your lamblastment but you can't get away from the truth that, leaking roofs with B&Q buckets to catch the water, travelators that don't work, escalators that don't work, having to descend into the bowels of the terminal to go through security and then resurface again, rusting staircases inside piers that haven't seen paint in years, toilets that STINK - yes a really fabulous experience.

I am glad you appear to like it anyway, ENJOY.

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Old 11th Sep 2019, 21:59
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How many more time the parts for the travelators are on a minimum 12 week delivery.
Oh for some that say the don’t break down anywhere else do they

Perspective right now there are two near new machines at London Bridge out of service for several weeks now and not expected back before November and a further machine running like a dog.

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Old 12th Sep 2019, 07:51
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Add to that when using Terminal 2 Heathrow at mid August 2 of the 3 walkways going to Pier 2B were out of service and one on the way back to the Terminal. Also in Toronto Pearson 2 of 3 were again out of service. Perhaps they won't be as long in being out of service, but they were.
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 09:44
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The point about this is that the travelators and escalators at Manchester seem to out of service more frequently than those in other airports, stations, shopping centres, etc, and not that this does not happen elsewhere. Having lived in HKG, where there are escalators everywhere, other than for planned maintenance, it was rare to see one out of action for more than 24 hours, and not weeks as at MAN.

I cannot recall a single occasion in recent years when all the travelators from T1 to T2 have been working when I have passed through the airport, and more often that not at least one has been out of use. Maybe, I am unlucky and don't travel through MAN frequently enough to see them all working, but from the comments of others, I suspect my observations are correct.
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 13:24
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in recent years when all the travelators from T1 to T2 have been working
It goes back further than that. The "blue tube" walkway opened in the '90s at the same time I got my B732 command at MAN. Staff parking was next to the 4M building so I used those travelators many times a week.

They didn't work then.................
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 16:21
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That’s because they haven’t all worked and KONE can’t get the parts !

At Hong Kong they DO break down I can assure you, yet having the factory just up the road and onsite KONE engineers 24/7 at a PRICE reaction is quicker for sure .
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 17:08
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The issue is that the problems have been going on for not just years, but decades - either sort it or rip them out.

Certainly on my last visit, not only were they not working but the gubbins in place for the maintenance workers made it difficult to even walk along the walkway - adding insult to injury!
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