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Old 1st Oct 2018, 13:11
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Does anyone know if the TCX1284 STN-TFS 16OCT is op by TCX themselves or subbed out. Also, does the aircraft fly a morning rotation before heading off to TFS at 1300 ?
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 14:50
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Originally Posted by _aax1
All PF aircraft at STN have been impounded by the airport.

The above was posted today in the Primera thread.

can anyone on the ground or in the know confirm this ?
if it’s not true this could be very damaging to primera
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 15:06
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Has primera collapsed?

Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
Originally Posted by _aax1
All PF aircraft at STN have been impounded by the airport.

The above was posted today in the Primera thread.

can anyone on the ground or in the know confirm this ?
if it’s not true this could be very damaging to primera
this info seems to have been confirmed by USERNAME, (an employee) in the premier thread
From crewing, airline no longer exists.

Second redundancy in as many years.


Heartbroken.

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Old 1st Oct 2018, 15:43
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Sadly they have just announced a delay on the EWR flight in the terminal, "Next info 60 minutes" but I think thats the end and they are just working out the details before they tell the passengers. sad but Inevitable after the delays in the aircraft delivery and the required sub chartering. Its always sad for the staff when this happens its never their fault and they are the ones left high and dry.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 15:44
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Well that wasn't obvious. Sorry to all the employees, especially those who are finding themselves in the exact same situation as this very day last year. Management of this sham are a disgrace.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 15:44
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Itís a year to the day that Monarch went bust.

October appears to be a dark month in aviation.

Hope all their staff secure new employment ASAP.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 15:59
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Originally Posted by planedrive View Post
Well that wasn't obvious. Sorry to all the employees, especially those who are finding themselves in the exact same situation as this very day last year. Management of this sham are a disgrace.
Thats a bit harsh on the management, they tried something new and it didnít quite work out. With a bit more luck ie aircraft delivered on time and not having to pay out a fortune in compensation perhaps they would have got through the winter. Perhaps they tried too much too soon this season, but if theyíd waited a year or two perhaps the opportunity would have gone.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 16:14
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Poor decisons and some poor planning made this quite likely, let’s not blame luck.
Good luck to all concerned.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 16:30
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So what happenes to all those stranded in Europe and State side? Will there be another CAA bail out?
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 17:21
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Airport Planner1: It was bleeding obvious to most in the industry it was never going to work. As others pointed out in the Primera thread but were shot down. Yet again it's the crews who lose out due to mismanagement and incompetence. Primera were a great little airline doing what they did in Scandinavia, there was no need for this misadventure except pure greed.

Crewmeal: There probably won't be - it wasn't a UK airline so no CAA repatriation flights this time.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 17:34
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No repatriation flights, no - but due to their size there is enough capasity in the market for people to come home - especially on routes like New York or Boston.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:13
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Originally Posted by planedrive View Post
Yet again it's the crews who lose out due to mismanagement and incompetence.
And here is the paradox...if they hadnít gone on this misadventure the jobs wouldnít have existed in the first place. It was bold, it was ambitious, and it might just have worked - while I sincerely feel for those just made unemployed, surely most would have known they were taking a chance.

I have to to admit I didnít think Primera would have longevity, but my feeling was it was being primed for a takeover or being sold on. Certainly there were rumours of a JetBlue tie-up which was one of my theories...if that was true perhaps talks collapsed which triggered these events
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:13
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Which probably leaves the door wide open for Jet Blue to pick up the business.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:24
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Putting aside the sad news.
passenger figures were good and proves Transatlantic can work from Stansted.
what we need now is a well known airline to come in and operate at least the Newyork route.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:37
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Putting aside the sad news.
passenger figures were good and proves Transatlantic can work from Stansted.
what we need now is a well known airline to come in and operate at least the Newyork route.
I donít think there was ever any doubt TA could work from STN...but unless Jet2 go into the market (unlikely), or TC replicate what theyíve done at MAN (unlikely), or JetBlue come over (vaguely possible) there will not be a NYC route because the established players will not dilute LHR unless they have to. Even LGW didnít have a NY route until Norwegian came along.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:43
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the established players will not dilute LHR unless they have to
Excellently said.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:46
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
Putting aside the sad news.
passenger figures were good and proves Transatlantic can work from Stansted.
what we need now is a well known airline to come in and operate at least the Newyork route.
Passenger figures will always be good if the price is right, doesn't necessarily mean it will be profitable to operate.
With oil prices rising again, it may be a while before somebody steps in.
No reason why STN can't attract an established Airline offering all classes of travel but low cost at the moment is dubious in my opinion .Should imagine Ryanair, Easy have all considered it and backed off!

Sad to see any Airline fail though , especially as many good people went there from MON.
Wish them all luck
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 18:55
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
Putting aside the sad news.
passenger figures were good and proves Transatlantic can work from Stansted.
what we need now is a well known airline to come in and operate at least the Newyork route.
Sadly, it further proves TA from STN is a risk. We have seen many attempts yet the end result is always this. Such a positive summer ends with a sceptical future once again for STN.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:12
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Might be interesting to see if WOW Air review plans to suspend STN during the winter period.
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 19:14
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TA From STN

TA from STN has worked with AA and CO having good loads but retiring the routes AA to join the BA monopoly policy from LHR first time round when they flew ORD from STN then CO EWR after 9/11 then AA again said to be banking crisis second time at STN with JFK which was going to double daily. Now Primera also having good loads,yes probably trying too much too quick,really feel for all staff especially those in Scandinavia,Airbus must feel really proud as well, good luck to all with future employment.
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