Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

Prestwick-2

Old 26th Dec 2019, 22:48
  #361 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: U.K
Posts: 560
Originally Posted by Navpi View Post
RYR maintenance.
Large hangar at Manchester available where they could rotate more aircraft ?
Reported on another site that Dublin Aerospace are in advanced talks for the large TCX hangar at MAN.
The96er is offline  
Old 28th Dec 2019, 10:52
  #362 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: SW Scotland
Age: 37
Posts: 294
Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post

That scenario is nowhere near comparable, and you have no idea what the proposed package and conditions of sale is (eg no commercial pax ops). We don't even know for sure is AGS.
How so? Care to explain?

No commercial passenger ops would be even more of an anti-competitive move. Removal of the competition at PIK will allow GLA to charge airlines more. Not exactly good for the passenger.
nighthawk117 is offline  
Old 28th Dec 2019, 12:56
  #363 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LV
Posts: 1,791
Originally Posted by nighthawk117 View Post
How so? Care to explain?
The competition commission report is over a decade old (first draft 2009) - things have changed significantly, airlines go where they want not where Airports or Operating Co's tell them. The report was regarding ownership of airports with 7 figure pax throughput. What has PIK got yearly?
Ryanair go where they want, and will chop and change as suits them- as all Scottish Airports have seen over recent years. They're interest in PIK however is more than just pax ops now.
2x Ryanair 737s analogy is like saying Sainsbury's cant take over Asda because of two shops - it would/will have no influence on any review. AGS, if the buyer, are unlikely to spend millions, develop new terminals, offer low cost incentives and create sudden draw at PIK- if you're unclear and worried about that potential, its perhaps worth doing some more research.
Current Scottish Government debt and interference did not feature 10 years ago but will certainly now influence issues during any likely upcoming 'fire sale' to offload.
I presume you'll be writing to the competition commission should Ryanair decide to move their 2x PIK 737's to Edinburgh?

CabinCrewe is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2020, 15:02
  #364 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Houston, Scotland
Posts: 26
I see FR a pulling another aircraft from PIK for S20
McTeir396 is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2020, 17:49
  #365 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Scotland
Age: 60
Posts: 255
Originally Posted by McTeir396 View Post
I see FR a pulling another aircraft from PIK for S20
yes schedule cuts announced a while back as they are also doing at quite a number of UK airports so not unique to PIK. Lack of aircraft cited
ScotsSLF is offline  
Old 11th Jan 2020, 20:33
  #366 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: UK
Age: 49
Posts: 1,060
Originally Posted by ScotsSLF View Post
yes schedule cuts announced a while back as they are also doing at quite a number of UK airports so not unique to PIK. Lack of aircraft cited
Odd that they couldn't maintain a similar schedule though to S19 and they are reducing their overall 737-800 fleet.
VickersVicount is offline  
Old 12th Jan 2020, 14:05
  #367 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Houston, Scotland
Posts: 26
I think this is further cut backs to the number already announced earlier in the year, in fact they are removing a based aircraft (3 down to 2).
McTeir396 is offline  
Old 12th Jan 2020, 18:44
  #368 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Scotland
Age: 60
Posts: 255
Originally Posted by McTeir396 View Post
I think this is further cut backs to the number already announced earlier in the year, in fact they are removing a based aircraft (3 down to 2).
Not that Iím aware of. Reduced schedule utilising two based aircraft instead of three was what was announced earlier.
ScotsSLF is offline  
Old 26th Feb 2020, 10:15
  #369 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: prestwick
Posts: 1
Who owns Prestwick Airport

When will an announcement finally be made about ownership and plans for Prestwick Airport?
Chrissb is offline  
Old 29th Feb 2020, 08:02
  #370 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Scotland
Posts: 89
Originally Posted by Chrissb View Post
When will an announcement finally be made about ownership and plans for Prestwick Airport?
Presumably this financial year as the Scottish Governmentís budget for FY20/21 makes no allowance for spending on Prestwick airport:

https://www.gov.scot/publications/sc...udget-2020-21/
tartan 201 is offline  
Old 2nd Mar 2020, 09:45
  #371 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: SW Scotland
Age: 37
Posts: 294
Originally Posted by Chrissb View Post
When will an announcement finally be made about ownership and plans for Prestwick Airport?
when there's something to announce!
nighthawk117 is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2020, 18:12
  #372 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The M77...
Age: 37
Posts: 109
The Scotsman reporting that Prestwick has had an increase in inquiries about handling freight only flights. It's buried quite far down the article.

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coro...ptions-2483332
The Hypnoboon is offline  
Old 18th Mar 2020, 22:21
  #373 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Earth
Posts: 44
Some good news for the airport, albeit under dreadful circumstances.

I'm surprised Ryanair haven't suspended all their flights, considering all of them are to Italy and Spain barring Faro.
Breathe is offline  
Old 8th May 2020, 16:44
  #374 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 5
Prestwick - The End?

It would appear the proposed sale of the airport has fell through.
Add to that aircraft not being allowed to do circuits due to the condition of the runway
and the Canadian Air Force moving to Belfast, it is looking bleaker by the day.
Feeling the pinch is offline  
Old 8th May 2020, 17:34
  #375 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Prestwick
Posts: 59
The deal, as far as I am lead to believe was signed off prior to the start of the new financial year.
What has happened? Who knows, but on the face of it, it doesn`t look good.
And with the Scottish administration having to put there money elsewhere in the coming months and probably
years due to the fallout from the CV-19 epidemic,the case for Prestwick remaining as it currently is, I would say
is doubtful to say the least.


Tiger8 is offline  
Old 8th May 2020, 17:58
  #376 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: The banks of the Pow burn
Posts: 29
Originally Posted by Feeling the pinch View Post
It would appear the proposed sale of the airport has fell through.
Add to that aircraft not being allowed to do circuits due to the condition of the runway
and the Canadian Air Force moving to Belfast, it is looking bleaker by the day.
where do you read that the sale has fallen through? Is that official or are you making an assumption?
TRN1K is offline  
Old 8th May 2020, 18:06
  #377 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Earth
Posts: 44
This article was in The Scotsman a few days ago:

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coro...sector-2841687


Discussions have been ongoing since December with a preferred bidder in an attempt to sell off the Scottish Government-owned asset, which is reliant on public loans worth nearly £40m.

But with the global aviation sector sent into a tailspin as a result of the pandemic, the talks will continue for longer than planned.
Breathe is offline  
Old 8th May 2020, 18:26
  #378 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Scotland
Age: 60
Posts: 255
Fell through has it? News to me - delayed, yes and possibly some reconsiderations given the present climate but 'fell through' ? And you should always take what The Scotsman says with a pinch of salt when it comes to PIK.
There have been a number of RAF and Loganair training flights recently as well as the Cargo 747s and 777s continuing to use the main runway so not sre where you got the news about the state of the runway.
Yes, Canadians have been using BFS on occasion (I gather due to lack of hotel accommodation at PIK) but they were in recently on 'gas an gos' so again not entirely accurate information.

There is no doubt that PIK like virtually every other airport in the UK and beyond will struggle but it is far too early to predict its demise (yet again)
ScotsSLF is offline  
Old 8th May 2020, 18:34
  #379 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Prestwick
Posts: 59
Originally Posted by ScotsSLF View Post
Fell through has it? News to me - delayed, yes and possibly some reconsiderations given the present climate but 'fell through' ?
There have been a number of RAF and Loganair training flights recently as well as the Cargo 747s and 777s continuing to use the main runway so not sre where you got the news about the state of the runway.
Yes, Canadians have been using BFS on occasion (I gather due to lack of accommodation at PIK) but they were in recently on 'gas an gos' so again not entirely accurate information.

There is no doubt that PIK like virtually every other airport in the UK and beyond will struggle but it is far too early to predict its demise (yet again)
Only the sched traffic is getting to use the runway. Crew trainers are only doing low approach and go arounds.
2 more CAF C-17`s into BFS tonight. It has been decidedly more than "on occasion".
Accommodation wasn`t a problem for the Kuwait or the Qatari air forces recently.
Tiger8 is offline  
Old 8th May 2020, 18:41
  #380 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: UK
Posts: 18
Prestwick ? Doubt it it has such a great position
lpvapproach is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.