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Old 14th Sep 2019, 19:02
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Id heard that the Embraer 145 performance on a wet runway at SOU was wholly unworkable, prompting a diversion on a soggy day. A payload restriction every day combined with the chance of a diversion or cancellation on a wet day would - I think - be enough to put any airline off.

And bmi couldnt have been that short of aircraft if they had stopped SOU-MUC and announced LBA-MUC before they ceased to exist ?
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Old 14th Sep 2019, 21:02
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Was the original plan not for the runway extension and tree felling to be done over the winter in time for next summer? If so, I would think there shouldn't be too many issues using the E175's, assuming it goes ahead.
There is a e175 based for one month during October. Operating dub/ams/man and the odd Spanish route.
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 08:53
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
Id heard that the Embraer 145 performance on a wet runway at SOU was wholly unworkable, prompting a diversion on a soggy day. A payload restriction every day combined with the chance of a diversion or cancellation on a wet day would - I think - be enough to put any airline off.
When the E145s started operations they were weight restricted on a wet runway. Embraer came up with an intermediate flap setting (I believe "flap 13") which significantly improved performance/weight restrictions.

I also remember a conversation with tha BRAL flight ops manager who indicated if a close in obstacle (tree in/adjacent to Marhill Copse) were reduced/removed a significant further improvement in take-off performance would result, increasing take-off weights by tonnes.

Now the birds have finished nesting anyone yet heard the sweet sound of chainsaws around Marhill Copse?

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Old 17th Sep 2019, 09:19
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Probably not. TreeHuggers rule - KO.
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 10:30
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There is a e175 based for one month during October. Operating dub/ams/man and the odd Spanish route
It looks like AGP stops on 2nd Oct, FAO on the 3rd, PMI on the 20th and ALC on the 26th. The latter 2 are often operated on the Q400.
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 10:34
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Good news that BE have added up to 18 flights p/w to AMS & CDG for W19/20!
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 10:44
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Originally Posted by stewyb
Good news that BE have added up to 18 flights p/w to AMS & CDG for W19/20!
That is encouraging...it is nice to hear some good news from SOU for a change.
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 15:56
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I don't understand the need for a Paris at 6.30, 1030, 1430, why not a evening flight? French business pax won't get a full day. I think these slots are the ones given up by Flybe under the competition rules. They gave up bhx to ams and CDG.
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 16:07
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN

I also remember a conversation with tha BRAL flight ops manager who indicated if a close in obstacle (tree in/adjacent to Marhill Copse) were reduced/removed a significant further improvement in take-off performance would result, increasing take-off weights by tonnes.

Now the birds have finished nesting anyone yet heard the sweet sound of chainsaws around Marhill Copse?

Went eastbound down M27 this morning, being restricted by roadworks to 50 mph was able to glance to right. One of the apparently offending trees (north of Marhill Copse) still stands, as Kenneth Williams said in Dont Lose Your Heads a digit-rampant! towards the airport!
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 16:38
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Originally Posted by Ejet1993
I don't understand the need for a Paris at 6.30, 1030, 1430, why not a evening flight? French business pax won't get a full day. I think these slots are the ones given up by Flybe under the competition rules. They gave up bhx to ams and CDG.
???????? I think the Southampton schedule quoted is this winter and Flybe have given up zero slots and in fact BE Amsterdam at BHX goes up from 5 daily to 7 daily as it did last winter. Flybe/VS/KLM/AF have to give up the BHX - CDG and AMS slots to other airlines outside of Skyteam/Connect/Flybe group and it appears it is from the start of the summer 2020 timetable.

If nobody is interested in these slots then they will be retained and I bet KL and AF would want to get their hands on some of them.

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Old 17th Sep 2019, 17:37
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
It looks like AGP stops on 2nd Oct, FAO on the 3rd, PMI on the 20th and ALC on the 26th. The latter 2 are often operated on the Q400.
Visiting the airport last Thursday I was surprised to see a Flybe E-jet (G-FBEJ I think it was?). Are they using that for domestic routes (with fewer weight restrictions) or internationals?
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 18:03
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Originally Posted by jensdad
Visiting the airport last Thursday I was surprised to see a Flybe E-jet (G-FBEJ I think it was?). Are they using that for domestic routes (with fewer weight restrictions) or internationals?
It seems to be doing OK on Palma, Alicante, Malaga and Faro rotations. I wonder what the pax allowances are.
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Thanks sixchannel. Indeed, Faro in particular is quite a hike.
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 21:46
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G-FBEJ is a 195 and this type operates and has operated from SOU to the above-mentioned destinations all Summer!

The earlier post suggests this will be replaced by a 175 for some Med flights in October.
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When you could have fun at work, long gone are those days.

With all the recent doom and gloom coming from this thread thought it may be time to lighten things up.
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Old 18th Sep 2019, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
G-FBEJ is a 195 and this type operates and has operated from SOU to the above-mentioned destinations all Summer!

The earlier post suggests this will be replaced by a 175 for some Med flights in October.
Schedule shows dub/ams/man/ams Monday to Friday. Then Amsterdam and PMI/ALC weekend.

The lack of e195 equates to 1652 less seats a week from sou for next summer. TUI have dropped mahon from next summer aswell.
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Old 18th Sep 2019, 17:37
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Mahon 2020

Originally Posted by Ejet1993
Schedule shows dub/ams/man/ams Monday to Friday. Then Amsterdam and PMI/ALC weekend.

The lack of e195 equates to 1652 less seats a week from sou for next summer. TUI have dropped mahon from next summer aswell.
Its still on the Tui site allowing you to book Mahon next year from sou
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 07:32
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Originally Posted by Ejet1993

TUI have dropped mahon from next summer aswell.
Where have you got this information from ?
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 08:23
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Where have you got this information from ?
Looks like Mahon is not bookable with TUI for next summer, flight timetable indicates all seats are booked up. This was a charter operated by BE and presume part of overall restructure!
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 11:10
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Originally Posted by stewyb
Looks like Mahon is not bookable with TUI for next summer, flight timetable indicates all seats are booked up. This was a charter operated by BE and presume part of overall restructure!
Could Ibiza and Palma follow suit?? Although both still showing and bookable for S20 atm, time will tell I guess.
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