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thing is Lolo is not an airline - they are a tour operator
so they can advertise to sell seats now if they wish - up to them who they then contract/sub the flight series to - could be all given to Flybe or Eastern if they so wish to pay them to do it - or even BA!
at the end of the day I wish them well for their very ambitious plans for summer 2019 - a series of flights and destinations that Bath Travel Palmair could only envy
will it happen? Hmmm well this is place to be and see !
volotea tried with SOU and SEN but it lasted only a year for a scheduled services - only package holiday charter flights seem to work sold via a major Tour Op.
so they can advertise to sell seats now if they wish - up to them who they then contract/sub the flight series to - could be all given to Flybe or Eastern if they so wish to pay them to do it - or even BA!
at the end of the day I wish them well for their very ambitious plans for summer 2019 - a series of flights and destinations that Bath Travel Palmair could only envy
will it happen? Hmmm well this is place to be and see !
volotea tried with SOU and SEN but it lasted only a year for a scheduled services - only package holiday charter flights seem to work sold via a major Tour Op.
LoLo are a flight operator selling seats only they are not a tour operator they do not sell direct package Holidays like a tour operator such as TCX or TUI.
Lolo have an ATOL so they could sell if they wished both accom and flight packages
they are defined as a travel agency as such
they are defined as a travel agency as such
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rog747 and Canberra 73
Interesting points,but as stated before ,in reality how are Lolo operating a chartered F70 going to complete with Ryanair and Tui down the road at BOU,or to the point LGW on some of there proposed routes?.
Southampton has significant restrictions with runway length and airside a/c parking to attract major players for the Sun routes,and unless this changes radically then operators/start up operators like Lolo will come and quickly go.
Southampton has the transport links,but lacks the airside requirements to expand into a progressive regional airport that it should be ,with Flybe floundering ,will the airport break out from its underproforming position?,it's a big doubt!
Interesting points,but as stated before ,in reality how are Lolo operating a chartered F70 going to complete with Ryanair and Tui down the road at BOU,or to the point LGW on some of there proposed routes?.
Southampton has significant restrictions with runway length and airside a/c parking to attract major players for the Sun routes,and unless this changes radically then operators/start up operators like Lolo will come and quickly go.
Southampton has the transport links,but lacks the airside requirements to expand into a progressive regional airport that it should be ,with Flybe floundering ,will the airport break out from its underproforming position?,it's a big doubt!
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I don't think that a single F70 based at SOU would have any affect on the airports operations although I find the list of destinations that they intend to serve a bit over ambitious, let's see how their Skiathos flight performs later in the summer.
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LoLo Flights may well have an ATOL but looking at their website they don't currently offer accommodation let alone flights and accommodation they just sell seat only, hence my reply regarding them as a seat only operator rather than a tour operator, until such time that they offer packages with accommodation and flights they remain to be a seat only operator.
They maybe defined as a travel agency having an ATOL but only in the sense that they are selling their own flights directly online albeit with chartered aircraft.
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Sorry but any operator that says it will fly a Fokker 70 to Greece is not someone I would want to spend my money with. It doesn't have the range unless you plan to ship the passengers baggage separately later on.
The concept of operating only at peak (Jul-early Sep) with low prices is flawed and may only be a one-off or limited time concept to soak up excess capacity that may exist.
This is another Powdair and the airport better steer well clear.
The concept of operating only at peak (Jul-early Sep) with low prices is flawed and may only be a one-off or limited time concept to soak up excess capacity that may exist.
This is another Powdair and the airport better steer well clear.
rog747 and Canberra 73
Interesting points,but as stated before ,in reality how are Lolo operating a chartered F70 going to complete with Ryanair and Tui down the road at BOU,or to the point LGW on some of there proposed routes?.
Southampton has significant restrictions with runway length and airside a/c parking to attract major players for the Sun routes,and unless this changes radically then operators/start up operators like Lolo will come and quickly go.
Southampton has the transport links,but lacks the airside requirements to expand into a progressive regional airport that it should be ,with Flybe floundering ,will the airport break out from its underproforming position?,it's a big doubt!
Interesting points,but as stated before ,in reality how are Lolo operating a chartered F70 going to complete with Ryanair and Tui down the road at BOU,or to the point LGW on some of there proposed routes?.
Southampton has significant restrictions with runway length and airside a/c parking to attract major players for the Sun routes,and unless this changes radically then operators/start up operators like Lolo will come and quickly go.
Southampton has the transport links,but lacks the airside requirements to expand into a progressive regional airport that it should be ,with Flybe floundering ,will the airport break out from its underproforming position?,it's a big doubt!
the broker in turn seeks airlines and equipment availability either wholeplane or sharing on an IT series with another tour op.
the likes of enter air titan small planet ASL and germanair all get work out of UK in this way
most smaller seat only and/or tour operators/travel agencies get their IT seats in this way (or share with another tour op buying seats in from them)
Kosmar was a big player here
I agree the performance penalties out of SOU for various destinations and a/c types may be challenging for route planning
Used to be be my field - am retired now
was good times once lol
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Sorry but any operator that says it will fly a Fokker 70 to Greece is not someone I would want to spend my money with. It doesn't have the range unless you plan to ship the passengers baggage separately later on.
The concept of operating only at peak (Jul-early Sep) with low prices is flawed and may only be a one-off or limited time concept to soak up excess capacity that may exist.
This is another Powdair and the airport better steer well clear.
The concept of operating only at peak (Jul-early Sep) with low prices is flawed and may only be a one-off or limited time concept to soak up excess capacity that may exist.
This is another Powdair and the airport better steer well clear.
we had to send one a/c with the pax and one for the bags
another 737-300 would also take a full load and bags plus any remainder we could not get on the Fokkers
SOU-JSI is a route that def can attract the demand if they advertise it enough and operate it without too much payload penalty - and/or sell a block of the seats to the JSI holiday specialists such as Sunvil, James villas, IONIAN ISLAND HOLIDAYS and Olympic Hols to share the risk - most of these are upmarket and a regional departure like SOU would be attractive to the JSI market (skiathos skopelos alonissos and the Pelion region)
apart from the view of the question of being viable operationally departing from SOU - most flights returning to the UK from JSI cannot depart with MTOW out of there going home to UK and stop for fuel at Volos, Lemnos (sometimes split load) or Saloniki, sometimes Kavala or Corfu - this makes it a 3 sector day for crewing
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Further to my post #388 I see that there is now a NOTAM delaying implementation of the 02 RNAV approaches until 2nd April.
Anyone know what's going on? For the IAP to appear in the AIP the procedures must have been approved by CAA, or were they approved subject to conditions that have as yet not been fulfilled by the airport operator?
Anyone know what's going on? For the IAP to appear in the AIP the procedures must have been approved by CAA, or were they approved subject to conditions that have as yet not been fulfilled by the airport operator?
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In the absence of a further NOTAM to delay its use, and looking at the approaches flown on 02 this morning (on he runway centreline, well east of the VOR/DME final approach track), I would say that the RNAV IAP is now being used.
An acquaintance of mine (who doesn't like aircraft) recently purchased a waterside property on the Itchen, notwithstanding my advice that he'd shortly be under the approach path. Could shortly be an addition to the local anti-airport NIMBYs?
How long do we have to wait for a 20 RNAV IAP?
In the absence of a further NOTAM to delay its use, and looking at the approaches flown on 02 this morning (on he runway centreline, well east of the VOR/DME final approach track), I would say that the RNAV IAP is now being used.
An acquaintance of mine (who doesn't like aircraft) recently purchased a waterside property on the Itchen, notwithstanding my advice that he'd shortly be under the approach path. Could shortly be an addition to the local anti-airport NIMBYs?
How long do we have to wait for a 20 RNAV IAP?
EZY release their winter schedule on Thursday. Do we think Geneva will return and will there be an added route maybe, Lyon or Grenoble?
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Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Southampton's new airport drone! | Daily Echo
Does anyone else think it’s strange that they keep making noise about small investments like this, but there has been no mention of the much more significant investment in RNAV?
Does anyone else think it’s strange that they keep making noise about small investments like this, but there has been no mention of the much more significant investment in RNAV?
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The airport drone resembling a Peregrine is more news worthy then the technical details of a LPV RNAV approach to 02.Lets hope that there is a significant airside announcement in the future,now that would be newsworthy!
The airport drone resembling a Peregrine is more news worthy then the technical details of a LPV RNAV approach to 02.Lets hope that there is a significant airside announcement in the future,now that would be newsworthy!
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EZY possibly returning.
Have an email through from EZY this morning. “Now Booking: flights for winter 2018/19 from Southampton”. I also noticed when on EZY’s website a link that showed the deals, or prices. This had “Southampton to Geneva (Dec ‘18). From £26.95”.