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Old 27th Jun 2020, 10:44
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According to ACL Eastern and Blue Islands have been granted slots for SOU-DUB.
The same source also shows Blue Islands having been granted slots for SOU-MAN, in addition to Eastern.

It was rumoured on here a while ago and, while the current situation means that everything is up in the air as far as start dates etc, in the long run it looks as though there was some substance to the rumours of a Blue Islands expansion at SOU.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 11:52
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It looks like Eastern have deferred their SOU-LBA re-start until 6 July. It was on the website as 29 June, but has been changed without the "last updated" flag on the web page also being changed.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 13:01
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
It looks like Eastern have deferred their SOU-LBA re-start until 6 July. It was on the website as 29 June, but has been changed without the "last updated" flag on the web page also being changed.
Run out of serviceable Jetscreams to fly everything, perhaps?!
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 21:34
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Eastern increasing SOU-MAN to 9 weekly from 13/07 (2x Mon-Thurs and 1x Fri). New early morning flight on an ATR72. Afternoon flight still shows as a J41 but this could just be slow to be updated in the booking engine. Guess this also means the airport will be open in the mornings from them - back to normal operating hours or very close to it (Mon-Thurs at least)?
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Originally Posted by adfly
Eastern increasing SOU-MAN to 9 weekly from 13/07 (2x Mon-Thurs and 1x Fri). New early morning flight on an ATR72. Afternoon flight still shows as a J41 but this could just be slow to be updated in the booking engine. Guess this also means the airport will be open in the mornings from them - back to normal operating hours or very close to it (Mon-Thurs at least)?
Bloody good news. Jobs will be saved down on the Itchen swamp.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 22:36
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Originally Posted by adfly
Eastern increasing SOU-MAN to 9 weekly from 13/07 (2x Mon-Thurs and 1x Fri). New early morning flight on an ATR72. Afternoon flight still shows as a J41 but this could just be slow to be updated in the booking engine. Guess this also means the airport will be open in the mornings from them - back to normal operating hours or very close to it (Mon-Thurs at least)?
Airport opening hours will be 0700-1900 Sun-Fri, 0700-1500 Sat as of the 13th July.
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 23:01
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Eastern Dublin start date has gone very quiet and cannot understand why AMS has not been taken, maybe waiting for this weeks gov announcement on air corridors!
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 23:22
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Comment on the Eastern website on the page where they list the route resumptions suggests that they are waiting for a confirmed opening date for hospitality in ROI before releasing a schedule (and presumably also a start date...).
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"Marhill Copse investigation is over" - states Southampton councillor;
Marhill Copse is owned by AGS and some have seen this flexing of muscle to be to do with the runway expansion. Marhill Copse is just over the M3 at the end of RWY 20

Can't post links yet but on the front page of the daily echo website today.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 15:29
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Originally Posted by stewyb
Eastern Dublin start date has gone very quiet and cannot understand why AMS has not been taken, maybe waiting for this weeks gov announcement on air corridors!
AMS is full and has been for the past couple years. All of the permitted 500,000 annual movements are allocated to existing carriers and although some may now be available as a result of reduced operations during Covid, a carrier granted slots now would not get them on a historic basis to carry from one season to the next.

Flybe's operating licence has not been revoked so it's slots have not returned to the pool. If they had, there would be no guarantee that the operator picking these up would operate to SOU.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 18:36
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Eastern just flew over me here at the start of the feathers for RWY 20 for SOU - coming in from NCL - when did that start happening?

Is that a scheduled?

Very good to see.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 20:55
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Originally Posted by Auxtank
"Marhill Copse investigation is over" - states Southampton councillor;
Marhill Copse is owned by AGS and some have seen this flexing of muscle to be to do with the runway expansion. Marhill Copse is just over the M3 at the end of RWY 20

Can't post links yet but on the front page of the daily echo website today.
There is just no justification for the Runway extension now. Easy,Ryanair are contracting and pulling out of bases such as Southend and possibly Bournemouth
So there is little hope of anybody setting up a Sun route base from SOU!
Southampton has to try to survive with internal routes for the foreseeable future,with restricted hours and mainly prop operations.
Touch and go on long term survival
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 21:43
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Originally Posted by RW20
There is just no justification for the Runway extension now. Easy,Ryanair are contracting and pulling out of bases such as Southend and possibly Bournemouth
So there is little hope of anybody setting up a Sun route base from SOU!
Southampton has to try to survive with internal routes for the foreseeable future,with restricted hours and mainly prop operations.
Touch and go on long term survival
Slightly rich when you have been moaning for years about lack of airfield investment. Letís not be in any doubt, air travel will be back and SOU need to be in a position to capitalise, hence the extension will go ahead and be ready for any opportunity that presents itself!
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Originally Posted by stewyb
Slightly rich when you have been moaning for years about lack of airfield investment. Letís not be in any doubt, air travel will be back and SOU need to be in a position to capitalise, hence the extension will go ahead and be ready for any opportunity that presents itself!
One of you is going to be wrong !
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Originally Posted by RW20
There is just no justification for the Runway extension now. Easy,Ryanair are contracting and pulling out of bases such as Southend and possibly Bournemouth
So there is little hope of anybody setting up a Sun route base from SOU!
Southampton has to try to survive with internal routes for the foreseeable future,with restricted hours and mainly prop operations.
Touch and go on long term survival
Yes, but they'll be back - in two years time - air travel will be back to where we were in January 2020.
The airfields that had the vision to see the future getting back to normal will be the ones that make it.
SOU - has that philosophy right now.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 22:33
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Need to have deep pockets to be able to invest over a prolonged period of reduced income
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Auxtank
Yes, but they'll be back - in two years time - air travel will be back to where we were in January 2020.
The airfields that had the vision to see the future getting back to normal will be the ones that make it.
SOU - has that philosophy right now.
The overall volume may well be but the mix should be different. 2019 was a better year than the mid 2000s bubble but MME, BLK, MSE, PLH, CVT were all out of the game.
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Originally Posted by stewyb
Slightly rich when you have been moaning for years about lack of airfield investment. Letís not be in any doubt, air travel will be back and SOU need to be in a position to capitalise, hence the extension will go ahead and be ready for any opportunity that presents itself!
chomp chomp. You are playing into the hands of the troll by biting. If you ignore a problem it will go away eventually. Itís now unfortunately opened up the same debate that has been had 100s of times and definitely does not need be had again. I think the airport is doing especially well considering the situation, canít be many airports adding routes and frequency at the moment. They also didnít back down on the tree issue which they might have done in the past. Looks like the planning will also be as fiercely fought so all positives to look forward to.
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Its also worth remembering that a runway extension actually benefits the current users more than any possible future ones. Due to the hill on the 20 departure many aircraft types, including the ATR / EMB (as stated by LM) are pretty badly restricted, especially in hotter months. Whilst all airlines operating into SOU obviously make it work at the moment, its not to say everyone wouldn't benefit from an extension, plus now is a great time for investment as those working on the runway extension no doubt get paid a salary, pay taxes and of course spend that hard earned money (possibly?) in the local area boosting the Hampshire economy.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Need to have deep pockets to be able to invest over a prolonged period of reduced income
This will be the name of the game for the next 12-24 months , airports keeping heads above water during these tough times. Reduced operating hours tells me the purse strings are already being tightened at SOU, less expenditure for airport services, ATC, Fire, Ops etc also presumably with the recent Swissport announcement possible cutbacks there too. The main problem with all the above is reinstating it all if and when the time comes, there isn't usually a quick solution.
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