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Old 18th Sep 2018, 07:24
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Braathens was 6 x weekly to both Oslo and Stavanger. Bacon operated for a couple of years using the E145, numerous attempts from FR to both RYG and TRF have also been attempted.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 08:47
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Originally Posted by VentureGo View Post
Newcastle seem to be under-performing substantially when compared to similarly sized UK airports over the past decade. Despite adding Dubai to the destination board the airport is still well behind peak levels of passenger numbers achieved over 10 years ago.The sales business development team would be out of a job in any other commercial operation. Domestic routes have seen significant decline, also services to Copenhagen,Oslo, Stavanger and Bergen no longer available in any kind of regular volume (Used to be operated by Daily Braathens (now Norwegian?!) Boeing 737 back then)
Newcastle Airport were forecasting 10million passengers by now and yet only achieved 5.3m last year. Bristol by comparison from a similar level in 2007 achieved 8.3m last year. Other regional airports have similarly grown since the depression of 2008.

I wonder if anyone can identify exactly where routes with volume number of passengers have been lost from those years (circa and before 2007 - before Emirates and LCC gains)

Route Development and Marketing teams at Airport should be brought to task on such a terrible under performance.
I hope their ambitions won't backfire on them.
When it's the only significant airport in the area it should be doing better,

I had a very smooth passage through the airport yesterday, though the mystery remains how my hand luggage went into the xray machine in a basket but came out on its own, though they could do with buying a new belt getting the bags on and off the planes. I didn't know a motor could turn so slowly and lots of wasted time by the baggage handlers waiting for the next case to come down.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 18:32
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Comparison between 2006 and 2017

Increase of more than 50,000 pax

DUBAI 237,856 - new service
ALICANTE 167,298
PALMA 95,876
MALAGA 91,338
DUBLIN 91,072
ARRECIFE 88,869
TENERIFE 81,011
FARO 63,096

Decrease of more than 50,000 pax

SHARM EL SHEIKH -53,596 - route dropped
SANDEFJORD(TORP) -56,145 - route dropped
PRAGUE -61,057
BRISTOL -76,291
ROME (CIAMPINO) -80,752 - route dropped
GATWICK -216,312 - route dropped
STANSTED -303,682 - route dropped
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 19:57
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Why else would they reduce the frequency?


Easy to blame the airport, but if people don't buy the flights available? The relatively poor economic performance of the region is probably more of a factor.

BTW, I thought Braathens were bought by SAS? CPH was never a Braathens flight and wasn't Oslo BA Connect? Stavanger is still operated by bmi Regional daily except Saturday (don't think Braathens had a Saturday service either)
Your correct in your comment regarding Braathens being taken over by SAS, the connection that was made with Norwegian is irrelevant.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 20:38
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There was a time when both Braathens and Dan-Air operated NCL-BGO and NCL-FBU. Dan had a daily NCL-BGO-SVG-NCL 146 operation and a daily NCL-FBU-NCL operation with either 146 or 1-11-500. Braathens had a 737 operation on NCL-BGO and FBU, I think it was around five flights per week on each. Dan also did NCL-Gothenburg at one point. It was back in the day when the Metro Centre was new, in all fairness!

I don't recall BA Connect ever flying NCL-Oslo (happy to stand corrected) but I do remember Norwegian Air Shuttle having a short-lived go at NCL-Bergen after Braathens disappeared - I think it was with Fokker 50s as they had at the time.
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Old 18th Sep 2018, 20:59
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Without turning this into a nostalgia thread, BA Connect definitely did Oslo on the EMB-145. Norwegian Air Shuttle did use Fk.50s' after Braathens dropped away.
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 12:25
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If I tie my suitcase zips with a safety pin would the baggage handlers take if off?
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 12:44
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If I tie my suitcase zips with a safety pin would the baggage handlers take if off?
I doubt they'd even notice.
But if its "security" you're bothered about, FWIW I tie mine together with those cheapo tieraps that you can buy a big pack of in the Pound stores for - er - a Pound. Spares go in the suitcase for return trip. Never had one removed or tampered with and we do 10 - 12 flights a year.
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 12:59
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Originally Posted by ash666 View Post
If I tie my suitcase zips with a safety pin would the baggage handlers take if off?
think it could be quite dangerous if the pin opens and sticks into people. Better idea is use a bit of string and take spare for return journey.
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 15:55
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Looking at Ryanair for Summer 2019 as loaded so far and comparing it with this Summer, we seem to have lost Warsaw and Madrid with reductions on Dublin 11 (from 13) weekly
, Malaga 4 (from 5 weekly) Tenerife 2 (from 3 weekly), A loss of 8 flights per week. Is the Carlisle effect still worrying Ryanair and Aer Lingus?
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 16:01
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Is the Carlisle effect still worrying Ryanair and Aer Lingus?
WTF???
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 16:57
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
WTF???
LMAO ! ! I dont think they have anything to worry about.
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 17:52
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Wow..interesting morning due winds!, thought the “ toon” would have picked up a lot more diversions than they did?

Up in the air..these flyer types surely would be looking for nearest diversions and not going off to places like Manchester so much further away?

never mind keep your regular customers happy! ( exactly the ones who diverted!)!




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Old 19th Sep 2018, 18:07
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The nearest destinations were just as bad as Newcastle today, some were worse.
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 19:30
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Both have reduced frequencies and Carlisle - Dublin, planned for March 19, headbanging or not, will take some pax who would probably have flown from NCL
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Old 19th Sep 2018, 22:47
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Re. safety pins, I've used them in all sorts of situations and never known one to accidentally fall off but mine went missing on my recent trip.
I though I would get away with the plastic coated metal ties but no matter how many times I twisted one it pulled apart easily when I pulled on the zips.
I'm not bothered about security, I just don't want all my clothes to fall out but use something that is easy to get off at the other end.
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 06:45
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Originally Posted by Jamesair View Post
Both have reduced frequencies and Carlisle - Dublin, planned for March 19, headbanging or not, will take some pax who would probably have flown from NCL
The date for the tickets to go on sale for the CAX-DUB service hasn't even been announced yet.

I would suggest that there are more substantive reasons behind Ryanair and Aer Lingus reducing frequencies - if the routes are so marginal that RYR and EIR are "worrying" about the impact of a planned daily 34 seater turboprop from an unproven, unopened airport, things are worse than we thought...

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Old 20th Sep 2018, 07:54
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Berlin next to be dropped by the looks of it
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 08:34
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Split is no longer listed by EZY so that has definately gone
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 09:36
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The ZTH flight is now showing Delayed 21:45 thats around 37 Hour delay and is now Scheduled to be flown by G-TCDM
LCO gone tech again this morning.
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