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Old 24th Jul 2020, 10:42
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Originally Posted by BAladdy View Post
Looks like they have removed them again. First available flight is 1st October
Whats happened to all the NCL bookings that were planned Aug/Sept? Are they just outright cancelled or offered alternatives now other UK routes operating?
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 21:25
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The booked passengers on those cancelled flights will probably be re-booked on a different date from NCL, or a different route or a refund/voucher.

See the currently once daily LHR not now operating on Tue and Weds in August. Goes to twice daily in Sept, then showing 5 daily from Oct 1st . ( suspect that may not happen though unless bookings pick up ?)

About 20 departures per day now from NCL. Although a long way off pre Covid levels encouraging to see.

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Old 27th Jul 2020, 17:05
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The airport has released 76 members of seasonal staff from their contracts early due to the drop in passenger numbers - and is now looking to cut 34 permanent roles.
A spokesperson for the airport said: "Despite the recent return of some scheduled flights to Newcastle International Airport, the outlook for aviation following the Covid-19 crisis remains very uncertain, and we do not expect to restore pre-crisis levels of business until 2022 at the earliest.

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Old 4th Aug 2020, 07:41
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London Heathrow – Aberdeen 10 weekly
London Heathrow – Belfast City 9 weekly
London Heathrow – Edinburgh 17 weekly
London Heathrow – Glasgow 14 weekly
London Heathrow – Inverness 6 weekly
London Heathrow – Jersey 18 weekly
London Heathrow – Manchester 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Newcastle 5 weekly
London Heathrow – Newquay 5 weekly

BA domestic ops as of 2nd August, we really fit into same bracket as Newquay a brand new route!!??
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 07:59
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The airport has released 76 members of seasonal staff from their contracts early due to the drop in passenger numbers - and is now looking to cut 34 permanent roles.
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A spokesperson for the airport said: "Despite the recent return of some scheduled flights to Newcastle International Airport, the outlook for aviation following the Covid-19 crisis remains very uncertain, and we do not expect to restore pre-crisis levels of business until 2022 at the earliest..
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Maybe that would explain my -yet again- awful experience on my return to NCL a week or 10 days ago.
My car was at South Gosforth so I walked to the train platform, scanning my Pop card as I went, waited on the platform for 5 minutes until a speaker announcement said that no trains were running.
I waited for the next bit about replacement buses but nothing came.
I went back to the main building to find someone who could tell me what was going on.
There was no-one, not a soul. No information desk.
Was it so difficult to put someone at the entrance to to train passageway letting people know what was happening?
Or maybe NCL is the only airport in the world without even a noticeboard to put up there with the information.
But thank you to the girls at the Jet 2 desk who looked it up on their computer and told me I could use the 1-an-hour bus 42 outside.
Yep, after all the above I had 55 minutes to wait and no idea what I should do with my Pop card in all this.
Anyone new to the airport would have been in total confusion.
Even the taxi drivers weren't sure where the bus 42 stop was but people would have bought train tickets by that time.
One day NCL will get it right but I'm not holding my breath.


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Old 4th Aug 2020, 10:06
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Originally Posted by ash666 View Post
The airport has released 76 members of seasonal staff from their contracts early due to the drop in passenger numbers - and is now looking to cut 34 permanent roles.
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A spokesperson for the airport said: "Despite the recent return of some scheduled flights to Newcastle International Airport, the outlook for aviation following the Covid-19 crisis remains very uncertain, and we do not expect to restore pre-crisis levels of business until 2022 at the earliest..
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Maybe that would explain my -yet again- awful experience on my return to NCL a week or 10 days ago.
My car was at South Gosforth so I walked to the train platform, scanning my Pop card as I went, waited on the platform for 5 minutes until a speaker announcement said that no trains were running.
I waited for the next bit about replacement buses but nothing came.
I went back to the main building to find someone who could tell me what was going on.
There was no-one, not a soul. No information desk.
Was it so difficult to put someone at the entrance to to train passageway letting people know what was happening?
Or maybe NCL is the only airport in the world without even a noticeboard to put up there with the information.
But thank you to the girls at the Jet 2 desk who looked it up on their computer and told me I could use the 1-an-hour bus 42 outside.
Yep, after all the above I had 55 minutes to wait and no idea what I should do with my Pop card in all this.
Anyone new to the airport would have been in total confusion.
Even the taxi drivers weren't sure where the bus 42 stop was but people would have bought train tickets by that time.
One day NCL will get it right but I'm not holding my breath.
It's not a train its a tram and surely you should be venting at Nexus.
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 10:45
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Originally Posted by Wallsendmag View Post
It's not a train its a tram and surely you should be venting at Nexus.
Then why do Nexus call them trains?

And it is all part of the NCL experience.
No matter what problems passengers had there was no-one there to ask and with people wandering aimlessly around the terminal building wondering what to do makes it very much an airport problem.
Which could all so easily be have sorted with a simple notice at the entrance to the trains saying trains not running, use bus 42 outside.
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 10:46
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Originally Posted by 10 DME ARC View Post
London Heathrow Aberdeen 10 weekly
London Heathrow Belfast City 9 weekly
London Heathrow Edinburgh 17 weekly
London Heathrow Glasgow 14 weekly
London Heathrow Inverness 6 weekly
London Heathrow Jersey 18 weekly
London Heathrow Manchester 7 weekly
London Heathrow Newcastle 5 weekly
London Heathrow Newquay 5 weekly

BA domestic ops as of 2nd August, we really fit into same bracket as Newquay a brand new route!!??
I don't think you can really look at all the domestic operations in the same way.

Routes where the train is not an option
London Heathrow Belfast City 9 weekly
London Heathrow Jersey 18 weekly

Routes where the train is 4 hours+
London Heathrow Edinburgh
17 weekly (normally has 70 flights a week, plus 22 a week from LGW, plus 42 from LCY)
London Heathrow Glasgow 14 weekly (normally has 57 flights a week, plus 23 a week from LGW, plus 30 from LCY)
London Heathrow Inverness 6 weekly

Route with a 125k a month government subsidy (plus strong current tourism demand)
London Heathrow Newquay 5 7 weekly

Routes where the train takes 2 hours so are only there right now to provide onward connecting feed
London Heathrow Manchester
7 weekly
London Heathrow Newcastle 5 weekly
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 10:54
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Wow 2 hours Newcastle to London by train. I blinked and missed the opening of HS3/4/5
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 11:26
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
Wow 2 hours Newcastle to London by train. I blinked and missed the opening of HS3/4/5
Will we be that far up the HS list? Yes, I the 2 hours isn't quite right (feels more like 2 days...) but I think the general point TT is making is valid - it's also the reason given when we are the first to be cancelled by BA.
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 11:38
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Will we be that far up the HS list? Yes, I the 2 hours isn't quite right (feels more like 2 days...) but I think the general point TT is making is valid - it's also the reason given when we are the first to be cancelled by BA.
Google tells me the average journey time from Newcastle to London by rail is 3h33m. If you're headed for London, then by the time you've checked in, gone through security, boarded the aircraft, landed, deplaned, then taken the tube or train to central London I don't imagine the overall time is that much different, and you get space to work, and generally, even in standard class, more leg room than you'll ever get down the back of an A320.

The point of NCL-LHR is surely interlining, and with so many parts of the world inaccessible to us, or that require quarantine on arrival, or for which the UK requires quarantine on return the demand for interlining just isn't there; the same reason why Emirates are delaying the return of DXB-NCL.
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 11:47
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and you get space to work, and generally, even in standard class, more leg room than you'll ever get down the back of an A320.
Not my experience - and I've never had to stand on an A.320...
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 11:59
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It's not a train its a tram and surely you should be venting at Nexus.
I always thought the technical term was "light rail"

And yes, a Nexus issue but there should have been better co-ordination.
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 12:03
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
I always thought the technical term was "light rail"

And yes, a Nexus issue but there should have been better co-ordination.
If it is still the same basic system as originally, they are buses with track wheels stuck on the bottom.
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 15:26
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The point of NCL-LHR is surely interlining, and with so many parts of the world inaccessible to us, or that require quarantine on arrival, or for which the UK requires quarantine on return the demand for interlining just isn't there; the same reason why Emirates are delaying the return of DXB-NCL.
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Well I can only speak for me but with no EK if I want to fly in/out NCL KLM more of an option, cheaper and better connections, saying that nothing has really changed! You be amazed after the last 5 months how many people are actually moving around while they can!!
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 16:37
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Originally Posted by 10 DME ARC View Post
Well I can only speak for me but with no EK if I want to fly in/out NCL KLM more of an option, cheaper and better connections, saying that nothing has really changed! You be amazed after the last 5 months how many people are actually moving around while they can!!
You may well me moving around, but passenger figures across the globe suggest that most people are not!
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Old 4th Aug 2020, 19:22
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The LHR goes to 11 weekly from 1 Sept.
A full schedule of 5 Daily showing from 1 Oct ( if it happens)
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Old 10th Aug 2020, 17:55
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Old 11th Aug 2020, 20:38
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NCL-LHR
Now going 3 daily instead of 5 from end of Oct to start of Dec. ( some days 2 )
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:17
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Base closure now confirmed wef 31st Aug. but confirmation given that NCL will continue to be served by inward flights from domestic and international airports.
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