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Old 18th Aug 2018, 13:59
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Is this just perception, or are there facts to back up these comments about the number of technical issues?
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 14:02
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Is this just perception, or are there facts to back up these comments about the number of technical issues?
I am sure somebody keeps a record of all the dates which EF has been unserviceable and schedules are cancelled or rearranged because of it. Any member of staff at SEN will tell you.
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 16:10
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We do business in Dublin and frequently got our staff travelling over and back to Dublin. We switched to Flybe/Stobart when we learned they stuck e195er on the route. Christ we had no idea it would end up such a hassled short hop service. Our staff have been dogged with numerous long delays and last minute pulled flights where the aircraft went tech. We gave up using them after it impacted our business in a serious way. So yes, it's not perception, there is definitely a major issue with the kit, and now they're pushing the ATRs onto the e195er routes to cover the tech issues. It's totally undependeble. Our staff now shoot down the A13 and take Cityflyer or Cityjet from City now. If we're stuck we shoot over the bridge to Gatwick or if desperate do the M11 run to Stansted zoo. Rarely but have used it over past 2 months, we've had guys take the Heathrow T2 option for frequency convenience to get to meetings at Dublin. Sadly, we won't do Southend as Flybe/Stobart can't get their affairs in order, we're running a business too so need reliable and punctual services to Dublin (and others places). That's my experiences so far of those clapped out pieces of junk Stobart got going tech all the time.
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 17:02
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It’s Dublin and Glasgow that get disproportionately impacted as those are the places you can comfortably send an ATR. A bit tricky to get one to Zadar.

On quite a few occasions such as today’s Lyon they end up sending two ATRs because there are too many pax for one.
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 18:26
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This must be burning through a load of Stobart's cash and can't go on indefinitely i'd have thought. They've obviously bought/leased some proper dogs which is killing the viability of their operation. A shame really as the whole setup at SEN is good and is a decent option for getting to London.
Although having never been involved in it, there is an industry in itself of advising on buying and selling aircraft and aircraft engines. When you look at the "ownership" of some aeroplanes it amazes me how many banks/folks have an interest in them. I don't think it's that easy just to trade it in with Flybe for another one.
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 20:32
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 View Post
It’s Dublin and Glasgow that get disproportionately impacted as those are the places you can comfortably send an ATR. A bit tricky to get one to Zadar.

On quite a few occasions such as today’s Lyon they end up sending two ATRs because there are too many pax for one.
Weird. The first ATR EI-FMJ went to Lyons, but the second one not departed as of 2130 athough FMK and FSK are both sitting on the apron. What's going on?
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 22:33
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Weird. The first ATR EI-FMJ went to Lyons, but the second one not departed as of 2130 athough FMK and FSK are both sitting on the apron. What's going on?
Yes, it says cancelled. Perhaps some people gave up meaning they could fit everyone on the first one, or they just switched some people to tomorrow’s flight

Edit: Now scheduled for today, departing after the regular Sunday one unless the additional flight is today’s split in two

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Old 19th Aug 2018, 14:55
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I think it may be crewing problems today because all aircraft appear serviceable. Seems strange to ferry in an ATR from Dublin yesterday but no crews to fly it when needed. Big delays again today.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 15:43
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You can't run a business this way. What is going on is complete and utter madness.

Those E195's which Stobart use will have had maintenance service logs available for inspection prior to acquiring. Someone at Stobart made a decision to use these clapped out pieces of junk. That individual should be handed their P45 and booted out. The disasterous service on these routes is a function of that original decision. It's like Carry on Flying.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 15:55
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What a great film that would have made! Sid James as Capt Randy. Kenneth Williams as FO Reverse-Thrust. Not forgetting Barbara Windsor as Stewardess Melinda Mile-High.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 16:10
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What a great film that would have made! Sid James as Capt Randy. Kenneth Williams as FO Reverse-Thrust. Not forgetting Barbara Windsor as Stewardess Melinda Mile-High.
More like a disaster movie.....
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 16:30
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt View Post
More like a disaster movie.....
Yes It's true that Stobart/ Flybe have Embraers that are frequently tech, with the consequent disruption to pax, but it's nothing like the havoc that Ryanair have caused at STN. Not so long ago SEN was handling about 30,000 pax year, now it's on the way to 1.5 million with various carriers, so perhaps it's not such a disaster after all. More like a 'right carry on' ✈️!!
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 17:07
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Usual certain SEN contributor forum spin...

Any problems with SEN involve STN!.

The comparison with RYR does not cut it I`m afraid,totally differing factors.

SEN/STK problems mainly involve the actual aeroplanes which can be read ad nauseum on the thread.

I have no idea what is going on in the SEN terminal itself (only what I read here & not fussed) but it certainly would also be a matter of pro rata..ie smallish problems at a smallish aerodrome reflect as badly as a large problem at a large one.

STN doing very well thankyou.

You all wish SEN I`m sure to be a player so look to SEN for the solutions.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 17:21
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Usual certain SEN contributor forum spin...

Any problems with SEN involve STN!.

The comparison with RYR does not cut it I`m afraid,totally differing factors.

SEN/STK problems mainly involve the actual aeroplanes which can be read ad nauseum on the thread.

I have no idea what is going on in the SEN terminal itself (only what I read here & not fussed) but it certainly would also be a matter of pro rata..ie smallish problems at a smallish aerodrome reflect as badly as a large problem at a large one.

STN doing very well thankyou.

You all wish SEN I`m sure to be a player so look to SEN for the solutions.
I'm so pleased STN is doing very well, especially as I was involved in it's design and development in the 80's. However SSB you seem very thin skinned when any adverse comparitor is mentioned about STN. Yes SEN does have problems, all airports do, even STN, the reasons may be different but let's accept criticism when it's obvious and deal with it, rather than becoming defensive, because then nothing is admitted, and if nothing is admitted nothing is remedied.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 18:51
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Has ATR72 EI.-FMK gone u/s in Rennes? Return flight to SEN cancelled, as well as the SEN-MAN also cancelled.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 20:12
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Fly from Chateauroux instead, mes amis if a professional, reliable airline matters to you.
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 20:29
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Having flown many times to ZAD and had no problems apert from warm white wine I’m now very reluctant to give these clowns anymore money
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Old 19th Aug 2018, 21:02
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Having flown many times to ZAD and had no problems apert from warm white wine I’m now very reluctant to give these clowns anymore money
You’re pretty safe booking ZAD. That along with Budapest, Vienna and Dubrovnik are almost always on schedule. The ATR routes are also very reliable, although clearly the wheels have come off today.

Really all the bad press revolves around shambolic performance on the Dublin and Glasgow routes, followed by Lyon. Milan and Prague are a bit more hit and miss.
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 05:57
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DC3 DAVE Rennes is nearly 400 kilometres from Chateauroux! I would not want you to be my navigator thank you
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Old 20th Aug 2018, 09:06
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo View Post
DC3 DAVE Rennes is nearly 400 kilometres from Chateauroux! I would not want you to be my navigator thank you
You got me Compton! (Not for the first time)

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