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Old 26th Mar 2020, 11:05
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Is it economical for the airport to remain open 24/7 for a few cargo and passenger flights as that is just adding to the costs. Easyjet and Ryanair seem to think it is better to go into hibernation and save cash.
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The airport has announced it will now only open on Tuesday Thursday and sundays between 16:30 and 21:30 for passenger flights. The cargo flights remain unaffected.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 11:34
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Is it economical for the airport to remain open 24/7 for a few cargo and passenger flights as that is just adding to the costs. Easyjet and Ryanair seem to think it is better to go into hibernation and save cash.

Well that gets today's award for prescience.......
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 11:49
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Is it economical for the airport to remain open 24/7 for a few cargo and passenger flights as that is just adding to the costs. Easyjet and Ryanair seem to think it is better to go into hibernation and save cash.
It’s hard to make a direct comparison. Even if the airlines were able to fly without restrictions, they would be burning millions in fuel without revenue.

The airport’s opportunity is cutting its wage bill to a bare minimum, but the government is stumping up 80% of that.

Please also bear in mind that SEN produces a significant proportion of its energy cost with its own solar farm.

Telling Amazon you are closed when their business appears to be booming (that’s my understanding) doesn’t seem like a smart move to me.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 11:59
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Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman
The airport has announced it will now only open on Tuesday Thursday and sundays between 16:30 and 21:30 for passenger flights. The cargo flights remain unaffected.
The way you have phrased that is possibly ambiguous. I believe the article actually implies that the reduced operations are only on those days between those times, ie: at other times, operations normalish, the terminal will be shut.
This of course might well change.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 13:33
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If that is correct it suggests Derry is also ending as Tue-Thu-Sun correlates with the Wizz to Bucharest, although Tuesday now seems to have been taken off sale and as I said above tonight’s is cancelled. Even with Loganair, terminal hours would only need to be about 5-8pm.

Another possibility is Loganair will operate Tue-Thu-Sun to coincide with the Wizz flights as it doesn’t make sense for check-in, security staff to come in for about 10-20 pax. As a side note, Loganair’s Dundee service will need somewhere to go as it’s due into LCY from Sunday but of course LCY is closed. It could continue to STN but that seems even more of a waste of time costwise as it would also be the only departure there around that time.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 13:40
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Dundee is part of HIAL, whose airports have had all routine flights stopped temporarily.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 13:50
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In fact Loganair are suspending LDY along with the majority of their remaining routes. All they’re keeping is some of the lifeline island routes, a couple from Aberdeen and the IOM-Liverpool which is used for hospital transfers.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 16:03
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave

The airport’s opportunity is cutting its wage bill to a bare minimum, but the government is stumping up 80% of that.
ATC and RFFS wage bills are very significant items in any small to medium sized airport budget. Having a 24 hour manned tower and fire station on call will be hurting the airport without the revenues coming in from the airlines. Can't see that the PSO flights are worth the effort of staying open. The night time cargo flights can operate without fire cover if they so choose and this would need just the one shift in the tower, saving 2/3rds of the ATC wage bill. Of course, if you send ATC bods home on reduced pay they are likely to remember this when the upturn comes in the months or years ahead. ATC bods have always been in high demand.
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 21:14
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
If that is correct it suggests Derry is also ending......
Derry to Southend is still continuing, but it is cut to 1 return flight, evening only, instead of 2 per day and is cancelled on a Saturday altogether.

https://www.loganair.co.uk/campaign/...efore-20-april
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 22:04
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Originally Posted by asdf1234
ATC and RFFS wage bills are very significant items in any small to medium sized airport budget. Having a 24 hour manned tower and fire station on call will be hurting the airport without the revenues coming in from the airlines. Can't see that the PSO flights are worth the effort of staying open. The night time cargo flights can operate without fire cover if they so choose and this would need just the one shift in the tower, saving 2/3rds of the ATC wage bill. Of course, if you send ATC bods home on reduced pay they are likely to remember this when the upturn comes in the months or years ahead. ATC bods have always been in high demand.

I get what you are saying, but my understanding is that the government will pay a maximum of £2500 or 80% of salary per month to employers who retain the services of employees. That’s a hell of an incentive to keep paying people who you know will be a nightmare to replace when this is over.

Also remember these specialist staff have no where else to go right now.

I guess a lot lot depends whether, as an employer, you believe the crisis will start to ease in weeks or many months.

Also depends on how vulnerable Stobart are right now because of decisions made totally unrelated to the crisis.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 07:22
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Originally Posted by scodaman
Derry to Southend is still continuing, but it is cut to 1 return flight, evening only, instead of 2 per day and is cancelled on a Saturday altogether.

https://www.loganair.co.uk/campaign/...efore-20-april
That has changed since yesterday, the route wasn’t on the list.

I also note Carlisle is on the “cancelled” list rather than suspended, all but confirming it won’t be back.
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https://www.businesstravelnewseurope...-opening-timesSouthend airport is restricting its operating hours to three days a week as airlines continue to cut flights due to falling demand caused by the coronavirus outbreak.

Starting next week, the Essex airport will only be open from 1630-2130 on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays due to a severely reduced service by its airline partners.

Easyjet and Ryanair have suspend all flights from Southend until at least mid-May due to border closures and travel restrictions across Europe, but some carrier have said they intend to continue a limited number of services.

Wizz Air will operate three flights a week to Bucharest from 30 March, while Loganair will continue its three weekly services to Aberdeen. However, the Scottish carrier has just announced it will cancel its Aberdeen route until further notice.

Southend will maintain logistical operations such as cargo flights, which it said will help it retain jobs at the airport.

CEO Glyn Jones commented: “I want to take this opportunity to express my immense gratitude for the incredible team here at London Southend airport who have responded fantastically to the unprecedented challenges faced by the aviation industry and by the world as a whole. I am pleased that the airport will contribute to the local community and its economy by securing jobs and contributing to the economy.”

The news comes after both Carlisle Lake District and London City airports announced they will cease passenger operations.
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 08:51
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easyJet aircraft moving to SEN for storage
easyJet will be moving aircraft out of its bases at EDI, GLA, BFS and NCL today and position them to LPL and SEN for storage.
15x aircraft are planned to position into SEN for storage

All 8x based EDI aircraft to position to SEN today for storage (3x A319/5x A320)
All 4x based GLA aircraft to position to SEN today for storage (2x A319/2x A320)
All 3x based NCL aircraft to position to SEN today for storage (2x A319/1x A320)

5x easyJet aircraft are currently in SEN, and an A319 is due to position out to LGW today via NCL, GLA and EDI.
This will mean 19x easyJet aircraft on the ground in SEN by this evening.
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Severn
This will mean 19x easyJet aircraft on the ground in SEN by this evening.
Im not hugely familiar with SEN, but is there room for all of these aircraft, even topped and tailed? Are there any FR or flyBe/Stobart aircraft left at SEN?

It looks like easyJet are trying to keep the aircraft in fairly close geographical proximity, I suppose this is maintenance related?
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 11:17
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An FR headed off to DUB a short while ago so that’s one stand free
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 11:45
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
An FR headed off to DUB a short while ago so that’s one stand free
I would not jump to that conclusion, as a different one landed from DUB shortly before that.
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 11:58
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Originally Posted by brian_dromey
It looks like easyJet are trying to keep the aircraft in fairly close geographical proximity, I suppose this is maintenance related?
Correct, expect them to be consolidated around LTN, LGW, MAN, BRS, SEN & STN.
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 12:05
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Luton has capacity for more storage but is an expensive place to park aircraft unless they drop their parking charges.
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Old 30th Mar 2020, 13:00
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Luton has capacity for more storage but is an expensive place to park aircraft unless they drop their parking charges.
It's not a time for the airports to be spanking the airlines. From what I'm aware, this is a negotiating stance by airports in lieu of fees and discussions of what will happen on the other site of this crisis.
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