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Old 11th Feb 2018, 08:18
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They've put in a de-icing pad on taxiway B and the aircraft taxies to the pad where two de-icer rigs are positioned. I don't know about it being the first such installation in the country - I thought LTN had something similar.
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Old 11th Feb 2018, 09:42
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I think it's a very good acquisition. Even at giant Luxembourg we dont have one here yet!
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Old 11th Feb 2018, 10:49
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Gatwick and Luton both use remote de-icing and there might be others in the UK.
Luton uses the south stands which is parallel to the runway. They use 4 de-icers at 2 per aircraft so 2 aircraft can be done at the same time plus the standard stand de-icers that float around the airport.
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Old 11th Feb 2018, 10:58
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Remote deicing facilities have been in use at some of the major European airports for literally decades. Oslo, Munich, Vienna, Paris CDG and Helsinki are examples that come to mind

There was some discussion on the BA thread back in December, where it was suggested that LHR has provision for such pads even though they are not in use.

Its hard to see how bringing a couple of deicing trucks to a fixed location can represent cutting edge technology unless they are doing something clever with the run off. That having been said I agree it can certainly be a more efficient method than on stand de-icing.

The new Link Taxiway Z is presumably to facilitate access to and from the de-icing pad.
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Old 11th Feb 2018, 11:30
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The run off of de-icing fluid is collected in tanks for processing and disposal so I suppose that is a useful improvement. Is the facility at LTN used 'engines running' as at SEN? Taxiway Z is not yet in use so the de-icing pad on B is accessed direct from the terminal stands and I assume the de-iced aircraft proceeds along B to the runway.
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Old 11th Feb 2018, 11:41
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Did someone commit the cardinal sin in aviation and say the words never happen re icing
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Old 11th Feb 2018, 22:32
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The advantage of taxiway Zulu (when it opens) is that it will obviate the need for additional runway backtracking following deicing. The STOP/DEICE markings as depicted on the AIP chart indicate the deicing pad can be accessed from either direction. This allows the option of entering the pad from the NW via Zulu and Bravo then proceeding to RW05 via Charlie. Of course runway backtracking is hardly an issue at present with the low current movement levels, but could become so in the future.

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Old 12th Feb 2018, 01:10
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Getting plenty of diverts with LCY closed?
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 04:32
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The last scheduled arrival was I believe at 22:00. The airport closes at 22:30 anyway with the final 30 minutes for late arrivals.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 06:55
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There are quite a number of diversions already on the arrivals board. With LCY closed all day we will hopefully do quite well out of their misfortune. For anyone who's not heard, there's a WW2 bomb been found in the watery depths.
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 09:22
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So where was Glyn Jones at the weekend? Did he drop something over the side in his bid to drum up more movements at SEN
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 09:26
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And what have SEN done to pee off Alitalia causing them to divert to STN ... Did you ask them to pay the bill?
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Old 12th Feb 2018, 11:38
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STN is simply Alitalia's number one LCY diversion airport. In fact they have never used SEN for LCY diversions. Still Cityjet, Luxair, Sun Air and Skywork will keep SEN fairly busy today. I think virtually every other airline has cancelled all LCY flights for today with BACF obviously having most of their aircraft trapped at LCY in any event.
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Air Malta

Air Malta is planning to start operating flights to London Southend from European airports. Chairman of Air Malta Charles Mangion said the companyís plans will be announced in the coming weeks. SEN apparently offers the airline advantageous conditions.

Cagliari 2x weekly from May is confirmed, Summer only.

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Old 14th Feb 2018, 04:58
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This is very interesting and, for me, unexpected news. I wonder who was responsible for clinching such a deal. SEN now have to start advertising their new flights to Paderborn, Chateauroux, and now Air Malta destination(s) to give the routes the best chance of winning support. I will be looking to see if the schedules are during the quieter hours when trains are running frequently to London, etc instead of the late evening rush to catch the last train.
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Old 14th Feb 2018, 06:51
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Chateroux, home of the exocet missile as made famous during the Falklands confict and supplied to Argentina via S. Africa c/o of Cargolux & AOM Minerve!

I was contracting pilots to Air Malta in one of my previous lives circa 2002-2006, talk about a shoestring budget Air Malta simply wouldn't authorise their Flight Ops to spend more than coins on agency fees, I still recall one Aussie pilot referring to his Air Malta salary as "Job Seekers Allowance", I'd imagine that SEN have offered them a bargain basement price for their custom.
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Old 14th Feb 2018, 07:36
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Originally Posted by Harry Wayfarers View Post
Chateroux, home of the exocet missile as made famous during the Falklands confict and supplied to Argentina via S. Africa c/o of Cargolux & AOM Minerve!

I was contracting pilots to Air Malta in one of my previous lives circa 2002-2006, talk about a shoestring budget Air Malta simply wouldn't authorise their Flight Ops to spend more than coins on agency fees, I still recall one Aussie pilot referring to his Air Malta salary as "Job Seekers Allowance", I'd imagine that SEN have offered them a bargain basement price for their custom.
Does this mean Air Malta are going toe to toe with easyJet? There can only be one winner in that contest!
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Old 14th Feb 2018, 07:42
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This is very interesting and, for me, unexpected news. I wonder who was responsible for clinching such a deal. SEN now have to start advertising their new flights to Paderborn, Chateauroux, and now Air Malta destination(s) to give the routes the best chance of winning support. I will be looking to see if the schedules are during the quieter hours when trains are running frequently to London, etc instead of the late evening rush to catch the last train.
This is good news! The train service falls down for those on the first departures, or those on the last arrivals, but non-based aircraft should operate within either extreme, and suddenly the train link to London becomes a real positive for the airport.
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Old 14th Feb 2018, 08:10
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Is there a source for this information? I canít see anything online. If the intention is to start this summer, they had better get a move on.

If itís true, I could see Catania being one of the routes. Poorly served outside of Gatwick, and a former Air Malta destination from LGW until EZY showed up.
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Old 14th Feb 2018, 10:57
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You can see Air malta's chairman describing the new plans on maltese TV at this link:

https://tinyurl.com/yah8zo28
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