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Old 8th Feb 2018, 13:49
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Airport boss proposes to extend Elizabeth Line to Southend Airport | Echo
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10 million pax? You're having a laugh, Glyn boyo.
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If they really want to get more pax through the door is it not time to seriously consider remodelling the runway. 1,799m is not good enough for a "London" airport.
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Originally Posted by mikkie4
starting tomorrow (fri) Amsterdam will be 4 x daily on fri/sun only for the next 2 weeks...ALL FLIGHTS SOLD OUT FOR THE SUNDAY FLIGHT....never had 4 x daily before ,maybe its a sign of things to come
According to the departures/arrivals boards there are 3 flights today, not 4. Not trying to be picky Mikkie4, but what goes on? Has SEN forgotten to put the additional flights on their boards? Not trying to pick holes in the previous report; just confused.
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If they really want to get more pax through the door is it not time to seriously consider remodelling the runway. 1,799m is not good enough for a "London" airport.
Totally agree. Though which end would you extend? at a push you could maybe get another 250m or so at the 05 end, cutting it close to the A127. Certainly can't extend at 23 with Rochford so close

Didn't others have a similar argument on the SOU thread?
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If you extended the runway to the southwest then the high ground at Bridgewater Drive becomes an obstacle, but because the runway is non- standard width it doesn't matter if you put down 3000metres its usable length would remain the same, and it would still be limited to aircraft up to about B757 size. It would be very difficult to widen the runway because of buildings that would then be brought within the strip width.
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Re my previous post on the number of Amsterdam flights today, whilst there is no mention on the SEN boards of a 4th flight, there is a 4th one showing on Flightradar24 but marked as canceled (sic)
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Originally Posted by SEN Observer
According to the departures/arrivals boards there are 3 flights today, not 4. Not trying to be picky Mikkie4, but what goes on? Has SEN forgotten to put the additional flights on their boards? Not trying to pick holes in the previous report; just confused.
The 1230 EZY7407 departure is cancelled with easyJet saying it's due to expected adverse weather conditions in AMS, although only light snow seems to be forecast. Perhaps they forgot to apply for the extra slot!
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Originally Posted by asdf1234
If they really want to get more pax through the door is it not time to seriously consider remodelling the runway. 1,799m is not good enough for a "London" airport.
Why? Less works fine for LCY which is definitely a "London" airport. They couldn't add much more length, then there is the issue of width and obstruction. Massive cost for minimal benefit. Newer aircraft coming on line with better range will open new opportunities.
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I see that OAG lists SEN as the most punctual airport serving London in January with on time departures at 90.9%. This compared to LTN at 82.7%, STN at 74% and LCY at 69.9%.
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Liking the omission of LHR and LGW. I imagine they would screw the stats to no end
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I assume you are inferring that I've deliberately left out the LHR and LGW figures because they would reflect badly on SEN - yes? If so pull those horns in P.S and your tongue while you're at it.

LHR was 80.7% and LGW 71.1% and the only reason I didn't include them is that most discussions on here involve SEN's relationship with LTN, STN and LCY. To have included LHR and LGW initially would make SEN look even better.
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Don't need bad stats to make SEN look even better, their 90.9% alone does a good job.

Just that you said airports serving London, and not including the 2 biggest, i thought there was a reason for the omission. Bigger airport = more likely to have delays, hence my playful reasoning.
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Eurostar will begin direct rail services between London & Amsterdam on 4th April & is set to challenge the airlines.
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
The 1230 EZY7407 departure is cancelled with easyJet saying it's due to expected adverse weather conditions in AMS, although only light snow seems to be forecast.
Because of expected snow, also KLM and Transavia cancelled at least 52 flights to and from AMS for today. So it seems to make sense that Easyjet (as the second-largest airline at Schiphol, after Air France-KLM) also cancels some.

Not only the flight to Southend was cancelled, but also EZY 2156 to Luton, EZY 7911 to Lyon, EZY 3004 to Stansted, EZY 2726 to Milan, EZY 1838 to Manchester, EZY 8876 to Gatwick, and EZY 7919 to Bordeaux. British Airways, Flybe, and Corendon also cancelled a few flights.
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Originally Posted by Barling Magna
10 million pax? You're having a laugh, Glyn boyo.
He's spouting the corporate line again. It's a nonsense, isn't it. Even looking at a 3 million pax p.a. target it's a real tough ask. Mr Jones will tell you 3 million is only around 2% of the London airports' pie, but it's not quite as simple as that. Just how many London pax are on aircraft that cannot use SEN? 100 million? (I don't know - perhaps someone does). So, in reality, 3 million p.a. is a much larger slice of a smaller pie. Glyn Jones' 10 million would probably represent SEN taking 15 - 20% of the market available to them.
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Old 9th Feb 2018, 11:29
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I wonder if Glyn Jones posts here under an alias? Might account for some of the fantasy posts I seem to read on this thread almost daily.
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Can anyone add to this piece?

Ice will not cause delays at Southend Airport any longer | Echo
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Seems fairly self explanatory to me, de-ice during the taxi is a lot quicker than deicing on stand ...
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I'm just asking about the "First airport in Britain" and "Innovative new technology" claims.
It's obviously a good addition.

Also, where is it located?
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