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By the time the summer arrives the new terminal entrances, lobby, ground floor retail units, new pier and departure lounge will all be complete and fully open.
On the negative side security will still be operating at 2017 capacity while the old retail units are being gutted and the arrivals experience will also be not great as work continues on the new baggage belts, baggage reclaim area and immigration hall.
The airport claim a new drop off zone will be open for summer which at the umpteenth attempt should ease the congestion but will it?
The big issue for 2018 will be the loss of the short term car park and reduction of the mid term car park. I can only assume that the whole of the multi-storey will become a short term car park rather than the top two floors being reserved for priority parking.
Last summer cars in the short term car park were having to park on pavements due to a lack of bays. All those cars are unlikely to squeeze into the top 2 floors of the multi-storey. Also with only 2 exit barriers it will also be a chore getting out.
Then there is the digging up of part of the dual carriageway for the cut and cover tunnel and the digging up of part of the ring road for the new pedestrian tunnel. No gain without pain but the pain is lasting years with years still to go. Once completely finished Luton will be unrecognisable from even today.
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What price Maintenance?
I have been hearing the odd rumour that may be interesting if true.
It appears that the council/ airport operator could be investigating moving the airport perimeter once the road to Century park is built.
Earlier this year we know that the council held talks with those concerned about CPO's being placed on buildings for the new road, could they also have sounded out the likes of TUI and MAEL about removing the hangars.
I am not sure what the future of Percival Way will be , but with the demise of Monarch, their HQ , training building, Halcyon House, which I believe is empty except for the Police, there appears very little to prevent them from flattening this land and using it for airport use.
The big question is does anyone see this as feasible , does the Airport see Maintenance as holding back development, does it provide much in the way of income , are the Hangars leased or bought.
Would the airport really gain much in the way of stands etc.
I am just throwing this out there for any comments, esp LTNman as your much nearer to the action.
It appears that the council/ airport operator could be investigating moving the airport perimeter once the road to Century park is built.
Earlier this year we know that the council held talks with those concerned about CPO's being placed on buildings for the new road, could they also have sounded out the likes of TUI and MAEL about removing the hangars.
I am not sure what the future of Percival Way will be , but with the demise of Monarch, their HQ , training building, Halcyon House, which I believe is empty except for the Police, there appears very little to prevent them from flattening this land and using it for airport use.
The big question is does anyone see this as feasible , does the Airport see Maintenance as holding back development, does it provide much in the way of income , are the Hangars leased or bought.
Would the airport really gain much in the way of stands etc.
I am just throwing this out there for any comments, esp LTNman as your much nearer to the action.
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Lots of rumours plus a few facts that I will concentrate on.
Maybe just under 2 years ago the airport held a meeting with TUI about moving the TUI hangar. No idea of the outcome or even if there was a followup meeting. At that time a plan was seen of a terminal on Wigmore Park with around 40 stands.
Since then the airport submitted two proposals for Wigmore Park and the field next door. The second plan is the revised proposal which involves a scaled back version of the first plan leaving the field next door clear of any development, which will allow the proposed new replacement Wigmore Park to be further way from the 26 end of the runway.
A planning application is about to go in for a new dual carriageway to serve the Century Park business park BUT Wigmore Park is also under consideration for expanding the airport so the business park might never be built, which means the dual carriageway could be for a second terminal.
Now if all the land from the dual carriageway to the hangar line was cleared including the hangar line would there be enough room for a terminal there plus new stands? Probably but not 40 stands which would be required to double the airport.
If the terminal went in Wigmore Park then that would also alter the airports airside and landside boundary. Other locations could be to build a second terminal in the long term car park but again not with 40 stands.
Also heard from a guy in the know and I mean in the know that the airport would like to build a second terminal in the existing CTA.
So the conclusion is with 4 possibilities I have no idea so take your pick.
Maybe just under 2 years ago the airport held a meeting with TUI about moving the TUI hangar. No idea of the outcome or even if there was a followup meeting. At that time a plan was seen of a terminal on Wigmore Park with around 40 stands.
Since then the airport submitted two proposals for Wigmore Park and the field next door. The second plan is the revised proposal which involves a scaled back version of the first plan leaving the field next door clear of any development, which will allow the proposed new replacement Wigmore Park to be further way from the 26 end of the runway.
A planning application is about to go in for a new dual carriageway to serve the Century Park business park BUT Wigmore Park is also under consideration for expanding the airport so the business park might never be built, which means the dual carriageway could be for a second terminal.
Now if all the land from the dual carriageway to the hangar line was cleared including the hangar line would there be enough room for a terminal there plus new stands? Probably but not 40 stands which would be required to double the airport.
If the terminal went in Wigmore Park then that would also alter the airports airside and landside boundary. Other locations could be to build a second terminal in the long term car park but again not with 40 stands.
Also heard from a guy in the know and I mean in the know that the airport would like to build a second terminal in the existing CTA.
So the conclusion is with 4 possibilities I have no idea so take your pick.
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What is the source? The rumour has gone around a few times before only for it to be denied.
What is certainly true is that Wizz Air need to find something to do with the 280 planes they have on order.
What is certainly true is that Wizz Air need to find something to do with the 280 planes they have on order.
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Here is the snow warning
Valid:270300 to 270600 UTC Text:MODERATE SNOWFALL IS FORECAST, WITH ACCUMULATIONS OF 0-1CM. SNOW TYPE WET. VISIBILITY IS NOT EXPECTED TO FALL BELOW 600M IN THE SNOWFALL, WITH A MINIMUM VISIBILITY OF 1000M. WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BE GREATER THAN 15KT WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF DRIFTING.
Overnight temp 2degC and 3degC tomorrow but with a wind tomorrow of 22kt gusting 35kt it is going to feel pretty raw.
Glad my phone doesn't ring these days
Valid:270300 to 270600 UTC Text:MODERATE SNOWFALL IS FORECAST, WITH ACCUMULATIONS OF 0-1CM. SNOW TYPE WET. VISIBILITY IS NOT EXPECTED TO FALL BELOW 600M IN THE SNOWFALL, WITH A MINIMUM VISIBILITY OF 1000M. WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BE GREATER THAN 15KT WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF DRIFTING.
Overnight temp 2degC and 3degC tomorrow but with a wind tomorrow of 22kt gusting 35kt it is going to feel pretty raw.
Glad my phone doesn't ring these days
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0-1C CM, let's see
The forecast was 2-5cm on the 10/12 and we had 16CM. Snow is the hardest weather to forecast as it changes every minute. Hopefully LTN will deal with it better this time around as less is forecasted.
The forecast was 2-5cm on the 10/12 and we had 16CM. Snow is the hardest weather to forecast as it changes every minute. Hopefully LTN will deal with it better this time around as less is forecasted.
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Blimey, would you believe it! Snow Warning now valid to 12:00. The hardest prediction is the temperature tomorrow and that is critical, as it could fall as rain.