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Old 19th Nov 2019, 04:15
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When the pax reach the aircraft door, it is one at a time. If you load with rear stairs as well, it improves matters greatly.

Yesterday I was boarding a BA 320 and we all filed on from the air brudge in time honoured fashion, with all the locker packing delays we know so well.
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 08:53
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Blue Air in S20 are retrenching to Romanian destinations only, dropping Turin and Larnaca.
Schedule shows Bacau 6pw, Bucharest 11 and Iasi 3.
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Old 19th Nov 2019, 19:30
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Originally Posted by LGS6753 View Post
Blue Air in S20 are retrenching to Romanian destinations only, dropping Turin and Larnaca.
Schedule shows Bacau 6pw, Bucharest 11 and Iasi 3.
Can't compete with Wizzair on Larnaca, but nobody else does Turin, thought that might remain.
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Old 20th Nov 2019, 17:05
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Not too surprised about BlueAir. Still cannot understand that nobody (except Ryanair a few times a week) flies to Bulgaria's second largest city Plovdiv with a catchment area of 1.5 million. There must be a 'problem' with the airport authorities as Wizz and easyJet do not operate any services from there. Also it is a 12 month destination with skiing in the winter months.
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Old 21st Nov 2019, 06:07
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Might have something to do with this https://150sec.com/fastest-shrinking...ulgaria/11022/
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 09:25
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Originally Posted by LGS6753 View Post
Blue Air in S20 are retrenching to Romanian destinations only, dropping Turin and Larnaca.
Schedule shows Bacau 6pw, Bucharest 11 and Iasi 3.
That's surprising they're dropping Larnaca. It's always packed. Last summer they positioned an ac from LPL few times to fly to Larnaca in pairs.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 11:11
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Blue Air are flying Larnaca to Athens, Heraklion and Thessalonika in S20, together with routes to Romania. I suspect this amounts to a reduction in services ex-Larnaca.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 01:40
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Turkmenistan Airlines to start flying from Luton to Ashgabat from December 2019
Perhaps a bit random, but it's an airline with pax that is unlikely to go bust so I imagine the airport will happily sign up T5 as a customer...
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:13
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They lost their Heathrow slot in or around February. They will introduce a weekly services starting next Tuesday although it can’t be booked via the airline.

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Old 26th Nov 2019, 08:20
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
Turkmenistan Airlines to start flying from Luton to Ashgabat from December 2019
Perhaps a bit random, but it's an airline with pax that is unlikely to go bust so I imagine the airport will happily sign up T5 as a customer...
Given the proximity of LTN to BHX, I really question why T5 feel the need to serve both airports. Pre the European ban they had a much larger, and very long standing operating in BHX, and undoubtedly long term relationships with many of the specialist travel agents in the Midlands. Clearly there is a market from the North London hotspots and a similar network of agents with whom they will have been working previously, but I would have though that they may have been better directing those London agents towards the BHX operation. Funny that in the Midlands and Norther we're "expected" to travel to London, but London passengers apparently can't travel in the other direction to catch their flights!
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 08:57
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Years ago, I flew to Ashgabat with Lufthansa - the plane was full of Brits and Americans sent to work in Ashgabat as some sort of well-paid purgatory in engineering/hydrocarbon sectors. Does this corporate demand still exist from London ?
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 20:17
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Now being told that Luton will not be able to accept the Turkmenistan service as they are up against the 18 million pax cap. Apparently Air India was sent to STN for the same reason.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 21:35
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Originally Posted by LGS6753 View Post
Now being told that Luton will not be able to accept the Turkmenistan service as they are up against the 18 million pax cap.
I thought it was only once a week to start with and with Blue Air reductions.
PS Don't say that about Air India, you will get a reaction.😀
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 23:16
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Some say that the airport has actually got to cut flights to stay within 18 million rather than just say no to new airlines.
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 02:55
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Some say that the airport has actually got to cut flights to stay within 18 million rather than just say no to new airlines.
Development Control Committee 21 November 2013 / Controls over Operations / Environment:

Section 12. At no time shall the passenger throughput exceed 18 million passengers per annum unless express consent is obtained from the local planning authority.

I take it that Luton Borough Council can, should they wish to do so, authorise the airport to exceed passenger levels at a marginal level to accomodate all the scheduled operations until midnight of 31st December 2019.

From January 1st 2019 until end of September 2019 the accumulated passenger levels (publicly reported) have greatly exceeded last years same period which means any growth for October and November and December will mean the 18 million mark will be reached around mid December which begs the question will the airport cancel all flights after that date? I certainly don’t think so.
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 07:27
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Explains nicely why for commercial reasons LLAOL has put in a planning application to the council to exceed this limit. By law the planning committee is meant to be independent of the council but in reality takes orders from those running the council as it is their airport. Many eyes are watching this application with the council under pressure to not only turn it down but to also turn down another planning application to exceed night time noise limits that were breached for 2 consecutive years. In that case the council did nothing to enforce the planning rule as they were too busy counting the extra money those breaches earned the council. This brings a whole new meaning to the phrase having its fingers in the till.

Worth noting that in the planning summery for 32 million, which the council is dishing out to the masses at consultation events, the council states that night movements will not increase above existing limits yet even before the ink is dry LLAOL wants to increase this limit.

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Old 27th Nov 2019, 18:46
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I’m all for it. Expand expand expand. If you don’t like the noise, shouldn’t have bought a house near an airport.
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 19:44
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I’m all for it. Expand expand expand. If you don’t like the noise, shouldn’t have bought a house near an airport.
As at 30.09.19 - 12m rolling pax was 17,978,237

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Old 27th Nov 2019, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Yahoo!® View Post
I’m all for it. Expand expand expand. If you don’t like the noise, shouldn’t have bought a house near an airport.


There are not many posts on PPRuNe that get me into a rage but the above is one of them so I apologise from my lack of tolerance when I have stated how tolerant this thread is to different view points.

Now my rant
Only someone who is intellectually challenged and ignorant would write such a comment. So how near is too near that they should not complain?

For a start the locals bought homes next to a 70 acre park and not an airport that wants to mug the residents of their park. Secondly people can live miles from an airport and be impacted by aircraft noise whether by new flight paths or just a massive increase in movements.

Then there is the environmental impact. Have you not heard of climate change and what that could do to the world or is it a case that you really don't care?

Oh I said in my last post that the airport had broken night noise limits for 2 years. It was actually 3.

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Old 27th Nov 2019, 20:38
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An interesting read on the ACL slot coordinators web site about S20 slots, if the limits are to be pushed upwards, aka 19M pax limit next year, it will need to be in place by 15th Jan 2020 then two week period of republished slot allocations after allocation to airlines on waiting list, or that's the way I read it.
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