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Old 5th Sep 2016, 13:18
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2 changes when alone with a 23kg suit case and a 10kg hand luggage, really !? OK for me (maybe), but my daughter is 21 and struggles moving a 23kg case to the taxi outside the house ! Not really a viable option is the train with 2 changes.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 14:03
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Then people should pack responsibly, not take the kitchen sink, or stay at home!

People always find negatives these days in relation to travel. We are too pampered and precious these days.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 15:10
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BA said they lost a shed full of money on Gatwick route
Probably, but with domestic pax figures only beaten by LHR and Belfast; on a par with ABZ and beating the rest (IOM, SOU, EDI, GLA, etc) there's more to why a MAN-LGW service doesn't exist on a another airline network.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 15:22
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I can't seem to find any increases to the TAP flights nor the TCX Goa increase. Where are these bookable?
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 15:28
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Your quite right Ametyst1, next time she goes for a 3 month stay I'll tell her to take no more than a carrier bag !
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[QUOTE][/Your quite right Ametyst1, next time she goes for a 3 month stay I'll tell her to take no more than a carrier bag ! QUOTE]

eggc, I'm afraid we've come to expect patronising or arrogant remarks from some posters. My thought was elderly folk with perhaps limited mobility but who are keen to be positive and keep taking holidays. Not sure they would relish two changes of train to get a flight from LGW rather than a direct flight from MAN, even with 12kg cases.

Years ago I used the BA service from MAN to LGW and it was usually pretty busy. Whether there is still sufficient demand though with a mix of connecting and business pax at both ends of the route to support a flight appears to be doubtful. And wouldn't there be slot restrictions at LGW at the busy times that business folk would want?
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 15:53
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Apologies, LIS is a mistake, will remain at a daily freq.

I was a little bored today so decided to have a look around the TCX website, however certain features didn't seem to be working. Therefore I moved over to the Condor site which has timetables loaded until the second week of November 2017. This is where the Goa flights show.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 16:30
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You are indeed correct regarding TCX to Goa, my apologies.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 17:16
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MAN-LGW would work for either EZY or RYR if they so desired.
LGW is IMO the best London airport to fly into as the train will take you into central London to Victoria or London Bridge. I don't really consider Paddington (off the Heathrow Express) to be central London.

The trouble with Virgin trains is that there is no competition between London and Manchester and therefore prices are eye-wateringly high in the morning. Someone like RYR could compete on price even when the last bit into central London is (ironically) by train. I would travel to London more often if there was a cheaper alternative than Virgin Trains.
Slots at LGW would be the problem I guess.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 17:47
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Another issue would be physically getting into a train into London at a peak time...
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 18:03
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I was on AAL210 JFK-MAN 5/9/16

Arrived 20 mins early
Outside 20 mins after
Waited 5 mins for T/bus
On road 40 mins after arrival....sorted

eggc - Get her a suitcase with a extending handle and little wheels - they're great !
or tell her to go to the Gym !!

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Old 5th Sep 2016, 18:49
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MAN-LGW

Lets not forget that Jet2 also failed to make this route a success despite high loads particularly in the morning.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 19:05
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Tend to agree about LGW not being a goer, but given the originator (on here at least) of the suggestion perhaps some form of TCX feeder is in the wind?
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 20:09
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Lets not forget that Jet2 also failed to make this route a success despite high loads particularly in the morning.
When Jet2 operated, BA were still operating x6 daily (I stand to be corrected on frequency). Any new entrant now would have the market to themselves. So who could/would operate it. BA - The 737's operated previously were 149 seater and were deemed too big, their smallest a/c now is 144 seater A319, so not much difference there. EZY - They did look at the route, but decided not to bother. BA Cityflyer - right size a/c, but no base at either end, so unlikely. Flybe - the most likely in my opinion, however, the stumbling block remains LGW's pricing structure which forced Flybe out in the first place.
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Old 5th Sep 2016, 20:15
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I think we have to accept the LGW link is gone and unlikely to return.

It's also worth noting that in the summer scheduling season, LGW is very slot constrained in the morning so getting a decent slot that can connect into long haul departure banks at either end of the route would be hard to find and likely have to come at the cost of another service. Would a MAN route offer a higher yield than a service already operating? Probably not otherwise the MAN route would be the one with service, and not the other route.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 07:33
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Lets not forget that Jet2 also failed to make this route a success despite high loads particularly in the morning
Not sure that it was that Jet2 couldn't make it work, I believe that they could make more money sending the aeroplane to other destinations rather than LGW and back.

Jet2 transferred the slots to a NCL service when they pulled the MAN route, at that time BA still operated the MAN service but had pulled the NCL route, leaving it unserved. This service was pulled some time later in favour again of sending the aeroplane to destinations where it made more revenue.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 08:10
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Neilson is to offer a new charter route to Zadar (Croatia) for S17.
Flights are operated on Sundays using Titan Airways.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 08:24
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Thomas Cook Airlines UK - Thomas Cook Airlines launches seventh direct USA route from Manchester Airport ? to San Francisco

San Fransisco officially announced. Boston apparently goes 4 weekly and not the 3 weekly as appeared in the timetable.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 08:57
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Very good news from TCX. I have tried their long haul offering twice now in PE and I have to say it was very good value for money. It's a far better product than say AA.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 09:12
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Thanks LAX for putting the link up about TCX SFO flights.

However, it should come with a health warning for Bagso.... as it contains the following ....
Local Conservative MP for Altrincham and Sale West, Graham Brady, said “I am delighted that Thomas Cook have announced a new route between Manchester and the USA. It will be good news for my constituents who value having a top class airport on their doorstep. Manchester Airport opens up a world of possibilities and the new route will be especially welcome. This direct route from Manchester to San Francisco links two vibrant cities with great opportunities for trade and leisure.”

Local MP for Manchester Airport Mike Kane MP said: ““Connecting to the world economy has never been more important. This is clearly great news for Manchester and the North and I would like to congratulate all those who have helped secure this route”
Quite a shock to see them (especially Brady) come out and support something like this in public, so well done to those who arranged it
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