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I imagine Iraqi Airways could do well with 2-3 weekly MAN-Baghdad. Fairly decent population around Manchester that supported flights to Erbil until recently.
In other news, Delta have brought forward the MAN-JFK launch from June 2nd to May 22nd.
In other news, Delta have brought forward the MAN-JFK launch from June 2nd to May 22nd.
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There seems to be growing rumours that VS are looking at MAN-LAX, and, while I cannot confirm if it is true, apparently new crew are being told MAN-ATL and MAN-LAX are the 2 new routes MAN will see.
AA210/211 now runs MAN-JFK-BOS too.
AA210/211 now runs MAN-JFK-BOS too.
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Kelvin: re QR Diversion this morning.
I am merely repeating what I heard on the scanner about the medical cases. They didn't mention a disruptive passenger at all, but then I didn't hear the start of the incident, when I started listening in they were already over the Irish sea. Could the passenger has injured another (pregnant) passenger? If so I suspect the media would be all over it and there would be reports of his arrest.
Re: DL/VS & BA/AA. Interesting times! I can see DL/VS having a go at more routes/ frequencies, but would BA/AA really be worried? Where would they fly to? DTW? BA/AA don't sere DTW from LHR even so would they care? LAX would be more worrying and would perhaps see a response should it be tried with a DL 763.
I am merely repeating what I heard on the scanner about the medical cases. They didn't mention a disruptive passenger at all, but then I didn't hear the start of the incident, when I started listening in they were already over the Irish sea. Could the passenger has injured another (pregnant) passenger? If so I suspect the media would be all over it and there would be reports of his arrest.
Re: DL/VS & BA/AA. Interesting times! I can see DL/VS having a go at more routes/ frequencies, but would BA/AA really be worried? Where would they fly to? DTW? BA/AA don't sere DTW from LHR even so would they care? LAX would be more worrying and would perhaps see a response should it be tried with a DL 763.
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How can you confirm its the same aircraft?
Just because flight numbers are the same means nothing. Happens lots between Europe and the US maybe hasn't happened at MAN before.
Take MAN-JFK-PIT, DL are not going to keep passengers on the same aircraft for 2h19m so the same plane which suspect wont happen means nothing. Passengers will have to do what all connections do.
Just because flight numbers are the same means nothing. Happens lots between Europe and the US maybe hasn't happened at MAN before.
Take MAN-JFK-PIT, DL are not going to keep passengers on the same aircraft for 2h19m so the same plane which suspect wont happen means nothing. Passengers will have to do what all connections do.
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That's right J636 - the fact that flights have the same number doesn't mean that it's a through flight. For example, our AA55 MAN-ORD also happens to be the same flight number as a later ORD-LAS service, operated by a different aircraft. US carriers have duplicated flight numbers for decades, possibly because they would run out of numbers otherwise.
And anyway, even if it were the same aircraft all pax would have to get off at the first point of entry to the US and clear immigration there.
And even a cursory check of the JFK-BOS leg for AA211 shows it as being operated by a 738....
And anyway, even if it were the same aircraft all pax would have to get off at the first point of entry to the US and clear immigration there.
And even a cursory check of the JFK-BOS leg for AA211 shows it as being operated by a 738....
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We all know you have to get off at first point of origin. The news here is not really DL tagging PIT on, AA tagging BOS on either, but the potential of further flights from DL/VS and the reaction, if any, from BA/AA.
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Armodeen:
And it was your version that I believed, not the Daily Fail'S.
Kelvin: re QR Diversion this morning.
I am merely repeating what I heard on the scanner about the medical cases.
I am merely repeating what I heard on the scanner about the medical cases.
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How can you confirm its the same aircraft?
Just because flight numbers are the same means nothing. Happens lots between Europe and the US maybe hasn't happened at MAN before.
Take MAN-JFK-PIT, DL are not going to keep passengers on the same aircraft for 2h19m so the same plane which suspect wont happen means nothing. Passengers will have to do what all connections do.
Just because flight numbers are the same means nothing. Happens lots between Europe and the US maybe hasn't happened at MAN before.
Take MAN-JFK-PIT, DL are not going to keep passengers on the same aircraft for 2h19m so the same plane which suspect wont happen means nothing. Passengers will have to do what all connections do.
So it was a disruptive passenger..
'Disruptive' passenger removed from Qatar Airways flight diverted to Manchester - Manchester Evening News
'Disruptive' passenger removed from Qatar Airways flight diverted to Manchester - Manchester Evening News
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NY to Doha via Manchester From the Daily Mail today:
"The New York to Doha flight had already completed about two thirds of its journey"
Is Manchester two-thirds of the way along the route from NY to Doha? Both route and distances don't seem to add up here. Anyone care to comment?
"The New York to Doha flight had already completed about two thirds of its journey"
Is Manchester two-thirds of the way along the route from NY to Doha? Both route and distances don't seem to add up here. Anyone care to comment?
JFK-DOH via MAN is also only 2 mi. longer than a great circle route.
Typical sloppy journalism?
I'm with you Cornishsimon, but I suppose never say never. Interesting times ahead as airlines realise more and more short / mid term growth can't be achieved from London.
Interestingly it seems if you put your ear to the ground that BA/AA JV is worried by the potential of DL/VS at MAN, and waterside are considering defensive action. Depending who you talk to that 'could' include action at MAN by BA themselves !! Sounds mad I know, and I personally doubt it as I can't see any success here for BA, but seems the least that is happening is BA is considering it's options regarding MAN.
Competition from the no frills carriers on shorthaul from the 1990s onward made these routes unprofitable for BA and it withdrew.
As for trans-Atlantic, it was better for one world partner AA to feed its USA hubs from BHX, GLA, MAN, etc., and this later this became a joint venture.
Longhaul for BA ex MAN would only work with feed. BA only fly to LHR with the sunair services as a bonus.
To make it work ex MAN I suspect IAG would need to buy flybe and use them to feed a longhaul operation.
To make it work ex MAN I suspect IAG would need to buy flybe and use them to feed a longhaul operation.
There seems to be growing rumours that VS are looking at MAN-LAX, and, while I cannot confirm if it is true, apparently new crew are being told MAN-ATL and MAN-LAX are the 2 new routes MAN will see.
Is VS going to abandon much of its non-USA network?
Is VS having difficulty competing with BA on non-USA routes?
Will VS become a trans-Atlantic carrier only (USA, West Indies)?
Will VS end up doing trans-Atlantic to/from several UK airports?
Is the clue in the name: Virgin Atlantic Airways?
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MAN-ATL is of course Delta's route of over two and a half decades given to VS on the A333 whilst DL focuses more ageing yet refurbished B763s into LHR. (That's ironic!)
MAN-LAX would be more point to point than spoke to hub like ATL and JFK are. Also the A330-300 is rarely flown on UK-West coast as it lacks range although the later models do better so perhaps good enough for Virgin? Can someone confirm if a VS A333 is a likely candidate or are we more likely to see a DL B763? Seems odd to do LAX before JFK comes back IMHO.
MAN-LAX would be more point to point than spoke to hub like ATL and JFK are. Also the A330-300 is rarely flown on UK-West coast as it lacks range although the later models do better so perhaps good enough for Virgin? Can someone confirm if a VS A333 is a likely candidate or are we more likely to see a DL B763? Seems odd to do LAX before JFK comes back IMHO.
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I know it's only galley FM, but wife of a friend is a VS hostie and seems to believe that they will be operating Virgin aircraft on MAN-JFK before much longer. Take that as you will.....
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Well if one world do increase presence at MAN they will require feed and flybe is the airline of choice.
They already codeshare with BA (LGW), CX, EY, AY etc
If the AA/BA JV are going to look at increasing MAN i would expect to see either AA & BA codesharing on BE ex MAN or IAG trying to buy up BE. IAG do seem to be in the market to buy again currently.
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They already codeshare with BA (LGW), CX, EY, AY etc
If the AA/BA JV are going to look at increasing MAN i would expect to see either AA & BA codesharing on BE ex MAN or IAG trying to buy up BE. IAG do seem to be in the market to buy again currently.
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First press article about Montenegro Airlines:
EX-YU airlines plan for an eventful 2015
EX-YU airlines plan for an eventful 2015
Montenegro Airlines had a difficult year with passenger numbers expected to decline at least 3%. 2014 also marked one of its worst financial performances on record. However, the airline plans to expand its route network next year, in a move aimed at combating increased competition in the region. The Montenegrin carrier is negotiating the launch of flights to Copenhagen via Zagreb and will introduce new seasonal summer services to Lyon and Manchester
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Just filled in an online questionnaire aimed at people in the North of England and was asked how likely it was that I would fly for leisure to one of the following locations in the USA in the next 2 years:
Miami, Florida
Washington DC, Massachusetts (wrong state)
Atlanta, Georga (missing an "i")
San Francisco, California
Chicago, Illinois
Los Angeles, California
Boston, Massachusetts
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
New York, New York State
There were a lot of questions about indirect flights and how much I would pay for airport parking too.
Later on in the questionnaire it became apparent that it was for Manchester airport. Maybe MAN are looking at San Francisco, LA, Boston & Miami to add to their USA flights?
Miami, Florida
Washington DC, Massachusetts (wrong state)
Atlanta, Georga (missing an "i")
San Francisco, California
Chicago, Illinois
Los Angeles, California
Boston, Massachusetts
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
New York, New York State
There were a lot of questions about indirect flights and how much I would pay for airport parking too.
Later on in the questionnaire it became apparent that it was for Manchester airport. Maybe MAN are looking at San Francisco, LA, Boston & Miami to add to their USA flights?
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Well if one world do increase presence at MAN they will require feed and flybe is the airline of choice.
They already codeshare with BA (LGW), CX, EY, AY etc
If the AA/BA JV are going to look at increasing MAN i would expect to see either AA & BA codesharing on BE ex MAN or IAG trying to buy up BE. IAG do seem to be in the market to buy again currently.
They already codeshare with BA (LGW), CX, EY, AY etc
If the AA/BA JV are going to look at increasing MAN i would expect to see either AA & BA codesharing on BE ex MAN or IAG trying to buy up BE. IAG do seem to be in the market to buy again currently.
Is BE up for sale? BA owned 10% of BE at one time, does IAG still own this or was it sold?
Would imagine that EI would be the top priority for purchase by IAG should the opportunity arise.
Later on in the questionnaire it became apparent that it was for Manchester airport. Maybe MAN are looking at San Francisco, LA, Boston & Miami to add to their USA flights?