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Old 3rd Jan 2017, 18:20
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Originally Posted by SEN Observer View Post
They are still not showing the new routes on the appropriate section of the website. It still just shows Gran Canaria and this is not a new route now. Someone needs a boot up the backside!!
i wish i was back there.....to kick ass....if Stobart SEN cant get it right then nobody will
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 04:09
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JOTA are looking for additional crews who are 146 trained to be based at Southend. 2+2 = 146 rather than 175?
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 04:45
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Do they do 146's with that config? I've been on 3/3 and 3/2 but haven't seen a 2/2
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 07:18
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As I've aid before (but might be wrong) this doesn't fit Jota's business model- they charge handsomely for sub charters and specialist charters- operating a regular schedule at short notice continuously at a tight margin would be difficult for them I suspect.
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 07:25
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The present seating configuration on the website doesn't have to match the type that actually initiates the routes as equivalent seat number changes can easily be notified. The Jota seating configuration on the RJ85 is 95Y, six abreast reducing to 5 abreast for a couple of the rearmost rows.

Jota wouldn't be abandoning their existing niche charter markets if they expanded to take on more general ACMI work and they presumably wouldn't take on any contracts that didn't provide a decent margin.
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 09:00
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22/04 makes a fair point about Jota. On the other hand that market segment can be quite spasmodic and ultimately limited in terms of expansion potential. One can see the attraction of developing an alternative revenue stream that may be lower margin but is more predictable .

Certainly Jota seem headed for expansion. Two months ago they announced their intention to seek two or more 146 freighters and a third passenger aircraft. Last summer they moved into one bay of the former ATC Lasham hangar at SEN with the intention of housing their own spares holding and carrying out their own Part 145 line maintenance.

I am not privy to the rumours that others have mentioned so I have no idea as to whether they are in the frame for the Stobart/Flybe work. There would be an obvious synergy for Stobart to use the services of a SEN-based operator but no doubt only if the price was right for both parties
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 10:41
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A - Ha! Now what Tagron has posted has a real ring about it. You want to expand - the banks want certainty. General ACMI work at tight margins may not be your thing, but if it's a step to where you want to be. Providing the work produces revenue that makes its full contribution to the cost of providing the service then a set-term contract located on your doorstep may be just the job.

Now what was I saying about E175's?...........
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 12:05
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Well whoever and whatever is to operate, they'll need the crews in place pretty sharpish.
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 14:31
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SEN Website

Going back to the subject of new routes not appearing on the SEN website, I e-mailed the airport again this morning and have received the following reply:

"Thanks for the email and happy new year.

We have some difficulties with our web provider, and that is why they are not on.

We are in the middle of swopping to a new provider, and the new routes will feature shortly."

So now we know!!
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 15:37
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Although the current website is ok, it is still lagging behind other airports for ease of use/navigation, content and style. A new web provider will hopefully bring about these necessary changes (and content updates).
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 16:41
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Well whoever and whatever is to operate, they'll need the crews in place pretty sharpish.
Which brings us full circle to JOTA and their advert for Southend based crews as I haven't seen anyone else advertising.
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 16:44
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A tubby little 146 in that horrible purple scheme?
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 18:45
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Originally Posted by LTNman View Post
Which brings us full circle to JOTA and their advert for Southend based crews as I haven't seen anyone else advertising.
As well as pilots, Jota are looking for various grades of engineers to support the SEN operation as well as a Safety & Compliance Manager. Now LTNman said 2 + 2 could = 146. And perhaps 175 is the wrong answer.

But before someone rebukes me for what is just more speculation, I have to say this recruitment drive by Jota is worthy of note regardless of whether it's linked to Flybe / Stobart or not. Clearly, they have plans that should be of interest here.
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 18:57
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Aircraft only make money when they are flying so do JOTA aircraft spend that much time flying at the moment or do they spend most of their days waiting for charter work? It is clear they intend to grow the business in 2017 so they must have something up their sleeve that involves a larger flying programme.
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 20:22
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Their utilisation on both aircraft has been very good over the past year.
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 21:31
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SEN web page has been updated with new flights and pics
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Old 4th Jan 2017, 23:51
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Despite the termination of the merger between Cityjet and Stobart, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cityjet appear with a Sukhoi Superjet 100, operated on behalf of Stobart.

Cityjet has said that they will sign additional airlines for further white label operations. They have plenty coming on steam, and the aircraft won't be going into LCY this side of 2018, they currently have 3 with more to follow this year, if I recall rightly.

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Old 5th Jan 2017, 08:17
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Superjet

I don't think we will see the Superjet here as my understanding is landing on Southend's runway when wet will be a problem for this aircraft.
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Old 5th Jan 2017, 08:33
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I think that is indeed the case. Sukhoi will be bringing out modifications to the brakes and flight controls to allow it to operate at LCY but I think these are some way off at the moment.
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Old 5th Jan 2017, 08:39
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Originally Posted by runwayman View Post
I don't think we will see the Superjet here as my understanding is landing on Southend's runway when wet will be a problem for this aircraft.
But it was reported here that a SSJ landed here a few months ago in a familiarisation exercise for SEN employees. Obviously that was when it appeared the Cityjet / Stobart deal was on, but surely no-one would have bothered if the runway was an issue.

If it is the case that SEN is a non-starter for the SSJ that would be disappointing, but I would think it may prove a bigger issue for potential SSJ operators.

Balkan Holidays have added SEN to their departure airports.

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