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If you want to know what aircraft will be used for the new routes just select a flight on the Flybe site (I tried DBV), select a ticket with a reserved seat option, then scroll to the bottom of the page to a schematic of the airframe. I'm sure there's a few of you able to identify the aircraft from the seating arrangement. May be provisional of course - shows how they're thinking. The one I looked at I think is a seat plan for an Embraer 175.
Just following up on some other posts (ref Wycombe post 3439) the rational for the deal with Stobart becomes clear. With a commitment to take 4 175's by 2018 (or presumably default on the contract) what better for Flybe to share the risk with a partner who has even more to lose than them.
Just following up on some other posts (ref Wycombe post 3439) the rational for the deal with Stobart becomes clear. With a commitment to take 4 175's by 2018 (or presumably default on the contract) what better for Flybe to share the risk with a partner who has even more to lose than them.
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It's a bold move by Stobart to add jetliners to its fleet, but their choice of destinations is quite encouraging. I expected to see Malta and Krakow in the list but maybe they will follow later. Good luck to Stobart -it is certainly a pivotal moment for SEN.
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Looks like a pair of EMB 175s to be used for new routes
UK-based logistics firm Stobart Group has outlined its proposed operational plans for London Southend wherein its Stobart Air (RE, Dublin Int'l) unit will expand its existing franchise contract with flybe. (BE, Exeter).
In a filing to the London Stock Exchange (LSE), the firm said Southend's new routes to Lyon St. Exupéry, Milan Malpensa, Budapest, Cologne/Bonn, Venice Marco Polo, Prague, Reus, Vienna, Dubrovnik, Figari, Perpignan, and Zadar would roll out during May 2017.
"The confirmation of new routes from London Southend Airport further builds on the strategic growth platform we have created in Stobart Group's Aviation Division," Andrew Tinker, Chief Executive Officer of Stobart Group, said. "This is part of the next stage of our strategy to build new passenger routes at London Southend Airport, capitalising on the growing demand in the South East."
The new routes will be served with a pair of EMB-175s which will compliment an ATR72-600 already based out of Southend for Stobart Air's existing Flybe routes to Caen, Groningen, and Rennes.
In a filing to the London Stock Exchange (LSE), the firm said Southend's new routes to Lyon St. Exupéry, Milan Malpensa, Budapest, Cologne/Bonn, Venice Marco Polo, Prague, Reus, Vienna, Dubrovnik, Figari, Perpignan, and Zadar would roll out during May 2017.
"The confirmation of new routes from London Southend Airport further builds on the strategic growth platform we have created in Stobart Group's Aviation Division," Andrew Tinker, Chief Executive Officer of Stobart Group, said. "This is part of the next stage of our strategy to build new passenger routes at London Southend Airport, capitalising on the growing demand in the South East."
The new routes will be served with a pair of EMB-175s which will compliment an ATR72-600 already based out of Southend for Stobart Air's existing Flybe routes to Caen, Groningen, and Rennes.
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Biz jet activity looking good
Business travel is taking off this year as London Southend Airport reported private jet usage was up 25 per cent year on year between March and August.
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As already pointed out when the number of biz jet movements is not far off zero just the odd extra movement can make a massive difference to the percentage total.
Good news about the 175's to be based at Southend but that won't add another 1.5 million passengers so will there be more aircraft coming in 2018?
Good news about the 175's to be based at Southend but that won't add another 1.5 million passengers so will there be more aircraft coming in 2018?
Is that part of the filing to the LSE or somebody making the same assumptions that we all have?
If so, looks like an expensive operation, paying both franchise and ACMI fees to Flybe.
If so, looks like an expensive operation, paying both franchise and ACMI fees to Flybe.
The Stock Exchange regulatory filing by Stobart makes no reference at all to the aircraft type to be used on the new routes so, yes, it's just somebody making assumptions.
For what it's worth I was told a different aircraft type and ACMI supplier would be involved but we shall have to wait and see.
For what it's worth I was told a different aircraft type and ACMI supplier would be involved but we shall have to wait and see.
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I feel totally thrown by Expressflight who is someone who's posts always receive a big thumbs up from me. Come on you airframe experts. Am I looking at a 175 seating plan on Flybe's website or not?
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@DC3, you probably are looking at an E175 seating plan, but that doesn't mean anything.
At the end of the day, the aim was to get routes on sale and the seat map is not going to stop them. They may use an E175, but if they use something else, they will just re-allocate seats. I don't know what aircraft will be used, but like others have mentioned, the E175 was not the aircraft I had heard initially, not for the short term ACMI at least ...
At the end of the day, the aim was to get routes on sale and the seat map is not going to stop them. They may use an E175, but if they use something else, they will just re-allocate seats. I don't know what aircraft will be used, but like others have mentioned, the E175 was not the aircraft I had heard initially, not for the short term ACMI at least ...
Sorry if I caused anyone a bit of confusion but I believe it's as cambrianboy says regarding the need to be able to offer seat reservations on the Flybe booking system. I'd be breaching a confidence if I named the type and operator initially to be used, as I was told it, but I'm sure that will become clear before too long.
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It's certainly more important to get the seats on sale than to reveal the aircraft type being used. I don't think the public will care what planes they use, they'll only be interested in the destinations and their prices.
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The Stock Exchange regulatory filing by Stobart makes no reference at all to the aircraft type to be used on the new routes so, yes, it's just somebody making assumptions.
For what it's worth I was told a different aircraft type and ACMI supplier would be involved but we shall have to wait and see.
For what it's worth I was told a different aircraft type and ACMI supplier would be involved but we shall have to wait and see.
Sorry am I missing something..but where is Carlisle in those listings??
Thought that was one of the main reasons Carlisle got the go ahead for the recent development??
Thought that was one of the main reasons Carlisle got the go ahead for the recent development??
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