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Old 28th May 2017, 09:28
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Originally Posted by gilesdavies
I can imagine this small subfleet of A321's operating almost exclusively and being based at Gatwick only. Maybe Luton could get a handful?

With slots becoming scarcer and Gatwick being by far easyJet's most profitable base, this is where they will want the extra capacity on the most popular routes without having to add additonal frequencies...

I can imagine more and more of easyJet's A319's at LTN being upgraded to A320's, which adds 30 additional seats over the smaller type, before any A321's are considered.
The new 321s will be spread round a few bases including ltn, and it is now more than probable that the majority of new planes will be A321 neos instead of 320s. As 319s are pensioned off so the fleet of 21s will increase.
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Capacity summer 2017

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...hKyfbw&cad=rja

Capacity winter 2017.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...5CGsQQ&cad=rja

Total Stands Summary (all Code C)
For coordination, Passenger Flights 36 total 36 Code C
LTN Size Grouping, Example Aircraft, Number of Stands.
Size 1 (smaller Code C) A320, B738 all variants x 6
Size 2 (standard Code C) A321, B739 all variants x 27
Size 3 (longer Code C) MD80 series x 3
Total Aircraft (Code C) 36

Stand reserve (outside coordination) 5 total 41 Code C
For coordination, incl. Cargo Flights 2 total 43 (incl 2 Code D/E)

Total 43 stands.
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Old 28th May 2017, 10:03
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Originally Posted by daz211
Monarch Airlines has tentatively filed 737MAX 8 operation for London Luton - Madrid route on 16MAR18
Probably an expensive PR exercise to launch the new aircraft arrival and commemorate the anniversary of the first Monarch 'charter' flight which operated from Luton to Madrid.

Lots of reason for PR people to get very excited over the next few months planning the event for the benefit of a few lines of comment in the local tabloid or industry press. Most of these events are completely lost on the real customers and general public. In most cases, lost on anybody outside the PR bubble and the specially invited guests on the VIP jaunt.

In reality, is anybody really going to choose to fly Monarch because the flight is operated by a 737MAX 8 versus a 320neo or A321 ? Probably not.

It would be a totally different matter if the promotion was for launch of a new scheduled route from Luton to Madrid. Then the event might have some promotional merit.
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The new 321s will be spread round a few bases including ltn, and it is now more than probable that the majority of new planes will be A321 neos instead of 320s. As 319s are pensioned off so the fleet of 21s will increase.
Will the larger aircraft be able to do JER & IOM?
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Monarch will be 50 on 5th April 2018 (from start of operations)
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Originally Posted by pabely
Will the larger aircraft be able to do JER & IOM?

JER used to regularly take BA 757's from LHR (& once had an L1011) so I don't see a problem with an A321 - if Easy decide to use them in there of course.
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Originally Posted by pabely
Will the larger aircraft be able to do JER & IOM?
A320s can and do land at both airports.
I said 319s would be replaced in the short term, not 320s. The upgrade of orders is a reality and will be happening. This is not another one of those rumours that quite often appear on here lol
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Whilst not 100% set in stone yet the A321's are currently planned to enter ORY, GVA, AMS, CDG, LGW with 1 or 2 eventually based at LTN for the likes of TLV, PFO, SSH and Turkish sectors. LTN's need for the 321's is not at the top of the list. The odd short AMS, CDG etc being used as gap fillers but no JER/IOM Flights
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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-with-oryx-jet

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...urf-air-europe
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Oryx Jet is another company that has links to Twinjet. Twinjet used to have an Airbus A319 based at Luton that ended up with the Slovak government.

Twinjet used to have their fingers in many pies but not any more.
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The first A319ACJ before it was even known as it. Was it G-OMAK? They moved it up to Brum at one point.
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Old 30th May 2017, 10:24
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Originally Posted by Captain_Caveman
Whilst not 100% set in stone yet the A321's are currently planned to enter ORY, GVA, AMS, CDG, LGW with 1 or 2 eventually based at LTN for the likes of TLV, PFO, SSH and Turkish sectors. LTN's need for the 321's is not at the top of the list. The odd short AMS, CDG etc being used as gap fillers but no JER/IOM Flights
SSH? Do you know something no one else does about starting back there? If so please share, could be interesting! Lol
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Originally Posted by musicmike
SSH? Do you know something no one else does about starting back there? If so please share, could be interesting! Lol
No, unfortunately I'm not privy to that level of information. U.K. government advice is still not to travel there and there latest update showed no indication of that changing anytime soon. Obviously some European countries have changed their minds on the matter and at some point I would like to think that UK tourists will be told that SSH is up to an acceptable standard to allow flights to resume. If and when that does happen then the A321 NEO's would be an ideal aircraft for the routes. Long sectors, good loads year round and longer than normal turnaround times in SSH. We used to fill them when operating the ex GB airways aircraft on behalf of a British airways and our 320's were consistently sold out on all of the SSH routes from the U.K before the suspension started.
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Call for airport operators to take responsibility for aircraft noise over St Albans and Harpenden - St Albans and Harpenden news - Herts Advertiser

It seems the further people live from Luton the more they complain despite the aircraft being at several 1000ft by the time they pass by. Number 1 spot is St Albans followed by Harpenden and Harpenden isn't even overflown. As for Stevenage, hardly anyone complains there but then they are not snooty. For every 1 complaint from Stevenage there are 6 from St Albans

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Don't expect to see anything positive about Luton from the Herts Advertiser - I wouldn't even call it a newspaper, more a rant piece.

Ironically (and something that seems to be lost on the candidates of a certain 'red' party campaigning around St. A), is that most of the noise heard in St Albans is actually from heavy easterly departures out of Heathrow off to the states!
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Old 1st Jun 2017, 22:41
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Got to agree - I see on TraVis there is a noise monitor in Sandridge now as well as 2 in Stevenage
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 06:48
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg
JER used to regularly take BA 757's from LHR (& once had an L1011) so I don't see a problem with an A321 - if Easy decide to use them in there of course.
The difference there being 757s have vastly better short field performance than the A321. Another reason why the 757 has never been truly replaced.
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 07:55
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I have lived in West Hertfordshire (various address') for 33 years and the St.Albanians are known for being 'up themselves'.

About 15 years ago, I attended a public meeting in Berkhamsted when the airport was realigning the approach paths. At the time, I lived under one of the main paths and there was going to be more traffic at that point. So I went to give my support for LTN, spoke about the many times I had used it for leisure and dozens of time for business. I said we needed the airport to do well.

Some of others attending (about 150) 'hissed' at my support! I now live nearer to St.Albans and the aircraft are indeed much higher and most ARE on their way out of LHR.
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Looks like Luton is getting a few Champion League flights according to the arrivals board today Carpatair and Gazprom for starters. Quite a way from Cardiff me thinks.
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The remoaners out in force once more

[QUOTE=LTNman;9789563]Call for airport operators to take responsibility for aircraft noise over St Albans and Harpenden - St Albans and Harpenden news - Herts Advertiser

LTNMan, having looked at this graph I can not understand why no movements are shown of Heathrow traffic heading North between Radlett and St Albans and Harpenden. In fact I watch regular movements of heavy traffic begining their second climb out on increased power just to the South of St Albans (as I work in that area) from 5000 feet. Does this grath only show Luton traffic and is it genuine? It would be interesting to see the true movements over LTN in particular as the sky above us handle LHR, LCY, SEN but predominantly STN movements which I assure you-by far exceed any movements over Harpenden or St Albans area combined.
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