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Is there a technical reason why a 747 can't get into Luton? I'd always assumed they had just chosen not to send one.
What's the deal with the 777 now that taxiway delta has been downgraded? Do they shuffle things out of the way to squeeze it through to the stand or does it just park on the south stands with buses from the terminal now?
What's the deal with the 777 now that taxiway delta has been downgraded? Do they shuffle things out of the way to squeeze it through to the stand or does it just park on the south stands with buses from the terminal now?
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Linslade next to Leighton Buzzard or 9+nautical miles
Don't hold your breath Buster as in MK Times a resident from Linslade now moaning about aircraft noise to Luton on 08 arrivals!
Interestingly why does MK still do such stories- are they still trying to rename London Luton Airport as their own as they suggested a few years back?
Interestingly why does MK still do such stories- are they still trying to rename London Luton Airport as their own as they suggested a few years back?
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Is there a technical reason why a 747 can't get into Luton? I'd always assumed they had just chosen not to send one.
What's the deal with the 777 now that taxiway delta has been downgraded? Do they shuffle things out of the way to squeeze it through to the stand or does it just park on the south stands with buses from the terminal now?
What's the deal with the 777 now that taxiway delta has been downgraded? Do they shuffle things out of the way to squeeze it through to the stand or does it just park on the south stands with buses from the terminal now?
I don't think taxiway Delta has been downgraded. In fact it was only a few months ago that an Airbus A340 used it on a few occasions. The upgrade of the Eastern Apron will see it slightly widened towards Delta so to squeeze a couple of extra stands but I don't know if that will impact on its designation.
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Redevelopment update
Easyjet’s old HQ is now almost gone.
The roundabout in the CTA has had all of its mounds removed just leaving raised manholes sitting on bricks and traffic light signalling equipment waiting to be removed.
X-ray equipment and scanners being installed in the old arrivals hall.
The old drop off area has been cleared of bollards and barriers. Tuesday saw a trench dug and new kerbstones laid within it before being cemented into position. On Wednesday they were all dug up as they had been installed in the wrong location. Part of the old road surface in the old drop off area has been dug up and awaiting removal.
Signatures old hangar by the road has a contractor’s fence around it and a few neat holes cut into its side and roof.
The roundabout in the CTA has had all of its mounds removed just leaving raised manholes sitting on bricks and traffic light signalling equipment waiting to be removed.
X-ray equipment and scanners being installed in the old arrivals hall.
The old drop off area has been cleared of bollards and barriers. Tuesday saw a trench dug and new kerbstones laid within it before being cemented into position. On Wednesday they were all dug up as they had been installed in the wrong location. Part of the old road surface in the old drop off area has been dug up and awaiting removal.
Signatures old hangar by the road has a contractor’s fence around it and a few neat holes cut into its side and roof.
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Every conceivable fact for 2014 can now be found at London Luton
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Every conceivable fact for 2014 can now be found at London Luton
I think page 47 with the timeline of expansion will be of most interest on here...
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You are correct as the airport submitted amendments to the planning authority bringing forward the multistory car park and extending the taxiway at the 08 end from phase three to this current phase.
It is also worth noting that the redevelopment work started six months late so I don't know if the timescales in the document reflect this delay.
The only negative point to make is the reduction of 2,336sqm of floor space in the upgraded terminal. Most of that reduction comes from the Pier B corridor link to the terminal which has been reduced from two-stories to single story so instead of arriving and departing passengers being located on different floors a single floor will be segregated like it is now between stands 4 and 9.
It is also worth noting that the redevelopment work started six months late so I don't know if the timescales in the document reflect this delay.
The only negative point to make is the reduction of 2,336sqm of floor space in the upgraded terminal. Most of that reduction comes from the Pier B corridor link to the terminal which has been reduced from two-stories to single story so instead of arriving and departing passengers being located on different floors a single floor will be segregated like it is now between stands 4 and 9.
The chart is definitely of interest - it's telling me that at least until the start of 2017, Luton airport is going to be a building site in the areas most visible to passengers with space likely being more limited than it currently is and that I should try to choose other airports where possible. Of course it also says that come summer 2017, I should return to using Luton again.
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As I have too much time on my hands I have made a close study of the plans and timescales and think the changes to the CTA will probably have the biggest impact on passengers until June/ July next year due to congestion in getting to the drop off zones and short term car park.
The short term car park, which is often full now, will have its capacity reduced by maybe half from later on in the year to accommodate the new road network while maintaining the old road layout while it is being built plus the new multi story car park which will have a footprint that is larger than the easyjet HQ and hangar as the car park will be longer. I hope that after the multistory car park is open then the remaining short term car park will finally be resurfaced rather than just left.
It will also be challenging to build new road that cross existing roads that will have to be kept open until the new roads are opened.
After that the next biggest issue will be the lack of catering facilities in landside departures as the existing facilities will become the second phase of the new security area which is due to open March of next year. The facilities will be restored when the bus station becomes part of the terminal.
Once upstairs most building work will be out of sight or quickly passed through apart from the splitting of the duty free shop to create a route to pier B so I can't see any reduction in the size up there. In fact with security moving downstairs very soon the old 1st floor security area could either be used as a temporary seating area or if they crack on converted to retail outlets.
The short term car park, which is often full now, will have its capacity reduced by maybe half from later on in the year to accommodate the new road network while maintaining the old road layout while it is being built plus the new multi story car park which will have a footprint that is larger than the easyjet HQ and hangar as the car park will be longer. I hope that after the multistory car park is open then the remaining short term car park will finally be resurfaced rather than just left.
It will also be challenging to build new road that cross existing roads that will have to be kept open until the new roads are opened.
After that the next biggest issue will be the lack of catering facilities in landside departures as the existing facilities will become the second phase of the new security area which is due to open March of next year. The facilities will be restored when the bus station becomes part of the terminal.
Once upstairs most building work will be out of sight or quickly passed through apart from the splitting of the duty free shop to create a route to pier B so I can't see any reduction in the size up there. In fact with security moving downstairs very soon the old 1st floor security area could either be used as a temporary seating area or if they crack on converted to retail outlets.
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Thanks for your thanks.
As never a weekday passes without me taking a photo to record the progress of the redevelopment I have to make a judgment what to show and mention here as I don't want to bore the casual or even frequent visitor who is more interested in new routes and extra services rather than the infrastructure of the airport.
As never a weekday passes without me taking a photo to record the progress of the redevelopment I have to make a judgment what to show and mention here as I don't want to bore the casual or even frequent visitor who is more interested in new routes and extra services rather than the infrastructure of the airport.
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With the deepest respect...
Admittedly I may be mistaken?
But in response to LTNman,
From the 'time progress of development' at Luton, are you telling me that a taxiway extension to runway 26 (part of the 100 million pound development) will not be concluded until March 2026?
If that is the case, then myself and every other Luton tax payer-with a vested interest in the airport has been had over by the current leaseholder!
So what we need confirmation of is simply- How much the current leaseholder will be investing in the airport and over what timescale?
2026! It is of my personal opinion and as a Luton tax payer, the current leaseholder may not be suitable to undertake the provision for the development of London Luton Airport to reach it's true potential at a pace in line with other London Airports!
I am deeply concerned and need confirmation!
But in response to LTNman,
From the 'time progress of development' at Luton, are you telling me that a taxiway extension to runway 26 (part of the 100 million pound development) will not be concluded until March 2026?
If that is the case, then myself and every other Luton tax payer-with a vested interest in the airport has been had over by the current leaseholder!
So what we need confirmation of is simply- How much the current leaseholder will be investing in the airport and over what timescale?
2026! It is of my personal opinion and as a Luton tax payer, the current leaseholder may not be suitable to undertake the provision for the development of London Luton Airport to reach it's true potential at a pace in line with other London Airports!
I am deeply concerned and need confirmation!
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Most of the work and money spent will take place in phase 1 and will be completed by 2017.
Phase 2 is for Taxiway Foxtrot and the widening of stands 16 and 17 between 2017 and 2019
Phase 3 is indeed the taxiway extension to runway 26 and the extension to the northern apron planned between 2019 and 2026. Now this is just a guess based on the fact that the northern apron extension has already been built and are the two aprons now used by Landmark. I am guessing that these aprons come back to the airport in 2026 just like stands 16 and 17 will next August. I would think that the extension to the taxiway at the 26 end could happen around 2019 but the fact is less than half the departures from 26 actually need to backtrack now so the work will not be viewed as urgent.
Phase 2 is for Taxiway Foxtrot and the widening of stands 16 and 17 between 2017 and 2019
Phase 3 is indeed the taxiway extension to runway 26 and the extension to the northern apron planned between 2019 and 2026. Now this is just a guess based on the fact that the northern apron extension has already been built and are the two aprons now used by Landmark. I am guessing that these aprons come back to the airport in 2026 just like stands 16 and 17 will next August. I would think that the extension to the taxiway at the 26 end could happen around 2019 but the fact is less than half the departures from 26 actually need to backtrack now so the work will not be viewed as urgent.
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I hear that easyjet are looking to move their HQ off airport but close to the airport for no other reason than that they are outgrowing the office space within the hangar despite adding mezzanine floors inside one of the aircraft bays.
Also car parking is an issue with many staff having to catch a company bus to an off airport car park around a mile away. So far they haven't found a suitable building.
With the main drop off area now closed long delays are occurring all the way back to the A505 on occasions. These queue lengths haven't been seen since the previous road layout was used where cars leaving the drop off area had to cross the path of cars entering the drop off area. Hopefully these queues will reduce as the airport comes out of its peak season.
Also car parking is an issue with many staff having to catch a company bus to an off airport car park around a mile away. So far they haven't found a suitable building.
With the main drop off area now closed long delays are occurring all the way back to the A505 on occasions. These queue lengths haven't been seen since the previous road layout was used where cars leaving the drop off area had to cross the path of cars entering the drop off area. Hopefully these queues will reduce as the airport comes out of its peak season.
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I hear that easyjet are looking to move their HQ off airport but close to the airport for no other reason than that they are outgrowing the office space within the hangar despite adding mezzanine floors inside one of the aircraft bays.
Who exactly owns the freehold of Easyjet HQ ? Who leased the building to Easyjet (not necessarily the freeholder) ? When does the lease end and what's the position with break clauses on the sides of fteeholder, lessor and lessee ?