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Old 13th Oct 2016, 14:40
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Reported on another forum that all UK-DWC cruise flights won't be returning next winter.
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Old 13th Oct 2016, 15:57
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If the cruise company position the ship elsewhere there is no point.

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Old 13th Oct 2016, 17:35
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Re BHX expansion, plans for a 2nd runway.

Certainly will be good to see BHX getting some recognition from the Govt if true.

However we have to bare in mind when BHX was bidding to be LHRs 3rd runway in 2013, the expected date we would need a 2nd runway was 2050 !

Gatwicks handling over 40 million off just 1 runway so that's 4 times more nearly than us so many years before we cwould need a 2nd one.

Also has to be said that the Govt has already said it will not provide any money for a 3rd runway at LHR or 2nd at LGW or both. Same for a 2nd BHX runway you would assume.

The current BHX site can grow for another 25yrs only after that we start running out of room.Thats according to the last masterplan.

New master plans out next spring, see what changes are built in should BHX appear in the Govt statement.

Will await that statement expected on 18th Oct with interest.

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Old 14th Oct 2016, 06:40
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The schedule has had many of the additional flights mentioned in the S17 press release dropped from the timetable which means we're back to 4 based aircraft again for next summer. Malta, Naples and Comiso all survive and Mytilene returns on Saturdays after being dropped for S16.

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BCN is now available for S17, only Thursday and Sunday flights are showing. The S17 timetable is still missing the following flights which operated at various times this year:

Tuesday MAD and BCN
Wednesday AGP and TFS
Thursday MAD
Sunday MAD and LPA
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Old 15th Oct 2016, 16:33
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Beech B200 Super King AirF-GJFA out of Deauville

Beech B200 Super King AirF-GJFA out of Deauville I assume this aircraft, which spent 90 minutes circling over Birmingham this afternoon,was taking photos before returning to Deauville?.

The history can be tracked on Flightradar24

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Old 15th Oct 2016, 16:57
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I just assumed in readiness for tomorrows half marathon. I am sure I have seen this aircraft do this kind of thing before as well as a Belgium B200. Mind you if it was for that you would have thought it would be cheaper to night-stop and go again in the morning.

Aegean

Back again next year to Athens, twice a week Tuesday & Saturday similar times and short season 20/6-23/9.

Qatar

The second Saturday service which was bookable from April has gone again, I doubt due loads as they are despite despite what the CAA figures show but maybe be yields or still aircraft shortages still.

Thomas Cook

Indeed scaled back to 4 based but only a loss of 7 or 8 flights as it was the aircraft that was due to go to Luton on 3 or 4 days and this just means it is similar to summer 16.

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Old 15th Oct 2016, 18:42
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ssflyer

I just assumed in readiness for tomorrows half marathon. I am sure I have seen this aircraft do this kind of thing before as well as a Belgium B200. Mind you if it was for that you would have thought it would be cheaper to night-stop and go again in the morning.

Aegean

Back again next year to Athens, twice a week Tuesday & Saturday similar times and short season 20/6-23/9.

Qatar

The second Saturday service which was bookable from April has gone again, I doubt due loads as they are despite despite what the CAA figures show but maybe be yields or still aircraft shortages still.

Thomas Cook

Indeed scaled back to 4 based but only a loss of 7 or 8 flights as it was the aircraft that was due to go to Luton on 3 or 4 days and this just means it is similar to summer 16.

Pete
We're due back from Sydney on the lunchtime Qatar Saturday flight.Hope it's just a glitch as we have a 94 year old with us and booked this flight for the excellent connection. Not sure if they send you with another airline or just offer a refund??
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Old 16th Oct 2016, 10:33
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Beech B200 Super King AirF-GJFA

Currently circling central Birmingham at 27000Ft
Doubt it following the run.
Anybody any idea what it is up to?
https://planefinder.net/data/aircraft/F-GJFA
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Old 16th Oct 2016, 10:41
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Originally Posted by ssflyer View Post
Currently circling central Birmingham at 27000Ft
Doubt it following the run.
Anybody any idea what it is up to?
https://planefinder.net/data/aircraft/F-GJFA
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If you research the aircraft's operator, you'll find that Aero Sotravia specialises in TV relay, so one would assume it is in connection with an event, such as the Birmingham Half Marathon; though I'm surprised if such a low profile local event would justify the expense.

Check the website TV signal broadcast - Our exclusive fixed wing RF system
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Old 16th Oct 2016, 12:45
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Thank you-problem solved.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 10:12
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Cobalt

Birmingham now showing in the drop down menu on Cobalt's website - though no flights appear bookable at the moment.
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Old 17th Oct 2016, 17:58
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September 2016 up 15.8%

https://www.birminghamairport.co.uk/...enger-figures/

Very strong figures in terms of the actual increase and September 2015 wasn't that bad. On a daily average they are actually higher than July due one less day in the month and only around 13000 difference.

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Old 17th Oct 2016, 18:16
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Rolling 12 months = 11,231,356 up 11.91%

September at 1,207,796 up 15.8% which is BHX’s second ever best month

11.5m for 2016 should now be reached ....

2016 % +/-

January 666,681 9.03%
February 724,187 14.98%
March 831,174 13.72%
April 873,965 13.28%
May 1,005,861 11.21%
June 1,118,452 13.07%
July 1,221,212 14.00%
August 1,285,911 12.95%
September 1,207,796 15.84%
October 1,045,000 13.53% est
November 765,000 10.48% est
December 755,000 10.51% est

Total 11,500,239 12.91%

13m predicted for 2017 !!
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Old 18th Oct 2016, 17:26
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Air India is planning more flights to the continent, by launching routes like Delhi-Birmingham-Toronto
Fares to North America may fall as Air India expands wings - The Economic Times

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Old 19th Oct 2016, 05:41
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Haven't they tried YYZ before?
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 08:00
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Yes,YYZ has been operated before by AI,and it was fairly successful.
The reason the flight got axed was because AI were given an ultimatum by the powers that be to use LHR slots or lose them.If you remember the flight was effectively transferred from BHX to LHR,although if memory serves it didn't actually last very long.
Whether the slots were retained by AI after that for another service at LHR,I can't remember,but as we all know AI returned to BHX and the rest is history.
What most people would like to know is whether the YYZ service is extra to what we have now,so 2 flights a day on the days of operation,or whether it is a tag on to the current service.DEL-BHX-YYZ-BHX-DEL on a daily basis.I am guessing a lot will depend on aircraft availabilty,but we do know some more 788s are due in the coming months.
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 08:09
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Originally Posted by bhx bod View Post
Yes,YYZ has been operated before by AI,and it was fairly successful.
The reason the flight got axed was because AI were given an ultimatum by the powers that be to use LHR slots or lose them.If you remember the flight was effectively transferred from BHX to LHR,although if memory serves it didn't actually last very long.
Whether the slots were retained by AI after that for another service at LHR,I can't remember,but as we all know AI returned to BHX and the rest is history.
What most people would like to know is whether the YYZ service is extra to what we have now,so 2 flights a day on the days of operation,or whether it is a tag on to the current service.DEL-BHX-YYZ-BHX-DEL on a daily basis.I am guessing a lot will depend on aircraft availabilty,but we do know some more 788s are due in the coming months.
I find these articles in Indian journals perplexing. So often they turn out to be completely without foundation.

However, with this one, I could see a scenario where Amritsar is served directly to BHX, as a "new route", freeing up capacity on the DEL-BHX for it to run through to YYZ.

I know nothing, this is pure conjecture on my behalf; and anyway, as with anything involving Air India, a significant part will be played by the Government, at both national, and state level. Notable the "M" word (Manchester!) didn't appear.
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 08:40
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That's not a bad shout ATNotts.
However my concern would be for those pax transferring onto flights from DEL.
More and more people are using this service as a transfer point not just to other Indian destinations,but also to other points in Asia and beyond.
If we only have Amritsar direct,then are AI going to guarantee a number of seats on the DEL service for those wishing to either stay in DEL or transfer to another flight from the BHX end.
If memory serves,not that many passengers used the flight to get to YYZ from BHX,but very often it was full going back to DEL,which included pax joining the service at BHX.
My point is,I am not sure there is sufficient demand for 2 daily flights to DEL from BHX,let alone YYZ.I know there will be demand from India to Canada,it is a case of what seats are going to be made available to and from BHX in both directions,if that makes sense.

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Old 19th Oct 2016, 09:06
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Landed in BHX after a week in FUE last night. The airport really needs some money spending on it. Leaving last week, in the middle of October, hardly peak time and two weeks before half term and the security queue was terrible and the design of the whole security system is really poor IMO. Got back last night and the pram/wheelchair belt wasn't working, and so the handlers very kindly threw the prams through the door (And I mean threw) not a care for damage.


On a side note, there was a white 737 parked up on remote last night when I landed, couldn't tell the series, judging by size i'd guess at a 300 or a 700, anyone know what it is? I couldn't read the reg from our bus
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Old 19th Oct 2016, 09:13
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Originally Posted by bhx bod View Post
That's not a bad shout ATNotts.
However my concern would be for those pax transferring onto flights from DEL.
More and more people are using this service as a transfer point not just to other Indian destinations,but also to other points in Asia and beyond.
If we only have Amritsar direct,then are AI going to guarantee a number of seats on the DEL service for those wishing to either stay in DEL or transfer to another flight from the BHX end.
If memory serves,not that many passengers used the flight to get to YYZ from BHX,but very often it was full going back to DEL,which included pax joining the service at BHX.
My point is,I am not sure there is sufficient demand for 2 daily flights to DEL from BHX,let alone YYZ.I know there will be demand from India to Canada,it is a case of what seats are going to be made available to and from BHX in both directions,if that makes sense.
Thinking laterally, were ATQ to operate as a stand-alone service, then perhaps AI could use BHX as a hub for passengers from ATQ wishing to connect onward to YYZ - with arrivals from DEL and ATQ timed to offer a fairly painless connection.

Obviously this raises a number of questions. First, could the terminal and transit area cope? Second, are AI reliable enough from a timekeeping perspective to make it a viable option? Third, what are the visa requirements for Indian passengers transiting UK?

With regard to No.3, you wouldn't pick up many passengers from ATQ transferring at BHX if they had to clear immigration, and thus have to have a UK and Canadian visa - a la the USA with PAX transfering at Miami onward to South America.

In the scenario I have suggested, I would imagine DEL-BHX-YYZ would be a 777, and ATQ-BHX a 788.

Nothing like a bit of kite-flying!!
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