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Old 27th Mar 2013, 21:48
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For passengers wanting to catch a coach between the airport and London Victoria there was the Green Line. Then easyBus started up in competition and the two services merged. Always thought it was free enterprise but it seems that it was a contract awarded by the airport. Now it will be run by National Express who will lay on 150 services a day!

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Old 27th Mar 2013, 22:07
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I don't think Greenline are going anywhere and this move by National Express is just really to introduce some more competition on the route...

Greenline's website states a new bus timetable, which only came in effect on the 24th March, so seems like they are here to stay. Download the PDF from the below link:
http://www.greenline.co.uk/uploadedf...313_010213.pdf

I would imagine the Airport will possibly market the National Express option to London as their preferred bus operator on the route and give them the convenient bus stops outside of the terminal. If they are people that wanted NX to come to LTN.

When the press release states buses up to every 10 mins at Peak Times and up to 150 buses a day. I wonder if these will be dedicated buses to this route, or if they will just divert more buses to and from the Midlands and North travelling up and down the M1 to call at the airport?

If you have ever been to Milton Keynes Coachway, which is a major National Express stop at Junction 14 of the M1, I would imagine they have a similar number of buses calling there each day and with similar frequencies. None of these are dedicated MK to London services, and just buses stopping enroute as they go North and South on the M1 to their final destinations.

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At the moment National Express don't even claim they operate into London from the airport

Our services arrive and depart from bays 4, 5 and 6 situated in the front of the terminal building.

We run the following services direct from London Luton Airport:

Service 707 to Northampton, 7 times a day
Service 737 to High Wycombe and Oxford, 8 times a day
Service 767 to Leicester and Nottingham, 9 times a day
Service 777 to Coventry, Birmingham up to 11 times a day
Service 787 to Cambridge, 10 times a day
Milton Keynes, 29 times a day
Stansted Airport, 27 times a day
Heathrow Airport, 20 times a day
Gatwick Airport, 10 times a day

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Old 28th Mar 2013, 07:19
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Hello gilesdavies,

I think the dates for the next El Al 777-200 arrivals are on April 2nd 10.55am and April 5th 08.55am.
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Old 28th Mar 2013, 10:24
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Easy increasing Tel Aviv flights to 11 wkly for W13/14, up from 9 this winter. Also, El Al have 6 wkly for the same period, up from 2/3 this winter. Quite an increase in winter capacity. This summer sees a big rise, due to a substantial increase by EL AL, especially in the peak summer months.

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This increase in EZY TLV is at the expense of another route or are we seeing an additional aircraft or better utilization in Winter?
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This increase in EZY TLV is at the expense of another route or are we seeing an additional aircraft or better utilization in Winter?
Don't be silly, easyJet add capacity to Luton with more aircraft... You have more chance of pigs flying!

Sharm El Sheikh seems to be down to 3 times a week up until January and then increases to five times in February (the schedule this winter was sixe times weekly)... So I'd imagine this is where the capacity is being taken from to free up Tel Aviv.

This chopping and changing of schedules and frequencies at Luton with easyJet is getting tiring now.

Im getting pretty frustrated with trying to book a flight and every year noticing the schedule is constantly getting chipped away. Limiting the days you can choose to fly, compared to the previous year!

Even though Luton is considered a "London" airport, the schedules offered by easyJet and Ryanair, definately more in-line with regional UK airports. Reducing frequencies to a destination, in favour of flying to more places.

Go back a few years ago when Ryanair increased their base at the airport to four 737-800's, they only flew to twelve destinations, they now fly to in-excess of twenty with the same equipment. Dublin is a good example, where they use to fly five times daily, now were down to two or three a day.

I noticed the other day, easyJet announced a new route to Bergen in Norway from Gatwick. They seem happier to fly from there, with direct competition from Norwegian and BA. Luton is scream out for some Scamdanavian woutes.

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easyjet winter 2013/4

Surely this is a part-release?

I have never seen anything like it and although Monday, Thursday and Friday seem okay the Tuesday and Wednesday flights even in November seem awful.

On a January Tuesday and Wedneasday BHX matches Luton on Geneva with just one flight - it must be provisional?

Aberdeen 4-5 a week, Amsterdam 2 on some days with EDI and GLA just 3 mid week.

I know the post Christmas holiday period does see cuts everywhere but I checked some late November dates and although not as bad it does seem down on previous years. If anybody has time to check the Tuesday and Wednesday November flights to confirm but I am only finding 20-25 flighst a day.



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Easy increasing Tel Aviv flights to 11 wkly for W13/14, up from 9 this winter. Also, El Al have 6 wkly for the same period, up from 2/3 this winter. Quite an increase in winter capacity. This summer sees a big rise, due to a substantial increase by EL AL, especially in the peak summer months.
Something has to give, surely? Is there really the demand for the number of services?

Would be a huge loss to Luton in my opinion, if El Al decided to leave the airport, due to the fact easyJet will undercut the full service offering.
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Old 29th Mar 2013, 09:07
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Wizzair is to cease Lodz by the end of May.
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Have you guys not seen Stansted's EasyJet schedule!? I don't think Luton is anything to worry about in comparison. Let's hope you're right that it is a part-release. 6 a/c at Stansted to say the least is outrageous. I don't think they're right yet though since Mondays had 15 early departures and only 10 late arrivals in Luton in January.

But myself from Leicester, OltonPete in Solihull and gilesdavies in Northamptonshire... we need not worry! If this is EasyJet's new way of serving London, we all have Southend as our alternative! What a lot of good that is for us!
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If anybody has time to check the Tuesday and Wednesday November flights to confirm but I am only finding 20-25 flighst a day.
No but I have departures on Tuesday 14th January 2014 below:

0645 AMS
0710 CDG
0735 BFS
0805 GVA
0840 FAO
0840 GLA
0845 EDI
0900 TLV
1210 MAD
1415 SXF
1500 CDG
1520 AMS
1710 BCN
1715 GLA
1810 EDI
1830 DTM
1900 BFS
2000 EDI
2055 GLA

That is not right at all. Monday 13th January 2014 has 41 departures, compared to 19 on the 14th
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Old 29th Mar 2013, 14:04
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I checked out all departures from Luton on Tuesday 12th November and Wednesday 13th November 2013. Tuesday totals 23 and Wednesday 26.
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Was that your letter in the H&P this week? Was a good read.
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Old 29th Mar 2013, 14:51
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I confess I am the airports most staunch supporter via the local papers and hated by the likes of LADICAN, HALE and the others! But if you look back at many of my comments over many years I always complained that the anti airport brigade purposely misinform the general public. Fortunately (though after me I should point out) the airport very recently raised this issue too, so I must be doing something right? Evidently those anti airport campaigners have gone mysteriously quiet? I wonder what they are currently planning... But I will be waiting for them!
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Old 30th Mar 2013, 22:30
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Grrr

So to get all the extra Romanian and Bulgarian folk in, are there additional 'one way' routes planned?
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Old 31st Mar 2013, 04:35
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They have been arriving at Luton for years. I kid you not, the large hoop gold earrings, head scarfs and general clothing gives them away as they head on foot down the hill with their luggage, as many of them can’t afford a bus fare.

I have yet to see any of them walking back up the hill with their luggage. Maybe they are here to stay or they have made enough money selling clothes pegs and lucky heather to afford the bus fare for any short trips home.

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Does it really matter how many departures they have, cause you don't fly them anyway, so why complain. They are a business after all and they are doing the right thing by following previous years statistics and cutting back in unnecessary flights. TLV is a very lucrative and good earner for them hence why the route has seen expansion both at LTN and MAN. Stop moaning about the cutbacks, unless you actually fly the routes concerned, you really have no right to complain.

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Old 31st Mar 2013, 14:12
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Both the new RSS stands are now in use (only an Atlantic ATP on the South Stands today)

Looking from landside to airside the new stand numbers are 80 (L/H) & 81 (R/H)
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Regardless of what one thinks about current EU policy on freedom of movement, do we have to have pejorative references to Bulgarians and Romanians (actually anti-Roma prejudice generalised across whole populations) on the forums? I have known a number of Bulgarians and Romanians who have been living and working (very hard) here for years already. I also know lots of English people who don't work at all and don't appear to want to.
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