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According to Descheemaecker the future of the airport in Zaventem could now be jeopardized. He fears that the Irish airline would provoke a 'disturbance'.
Descheemaecker calls to be 'strategically prudent' while dealing with the arrival of new players. "If Brussels Airlines becomes squeezed by Ryanair, the Belgian carrier might be forced to reduce its flights to Africa and travellers will have to fly from other European airports", he said.
Descheemaecker calls to be 'strategically prudent' while dealing with the arrival of new players. "If Brussels Airlines becomes squeezed by Ryanair, the Belgian carrier might be forced to reduce its flights to Africa and travellers will have to fly from other European airports", he said.
In any case is Brussels Airlines a wholly owned subsidiary of Zaventem?
There's something else going on with this story, besides just Ryanair being a threat to Brussels Airlines.
Vueling operate or are launching in the next few months the following routes:
Alicante
Barcelona
Ibiza
Lisbon
Malaga
Palma de Mallorca
Porto
Rome-Fiumicino
Santiago de Compostela
Valencia
Venice-Marco Polo
Ryanair will launch the following routes next year (FR don't fly to BRU right now)
Alicante
Barcelona
Ibiza
Lisbon
Malaga
Palma de Mallorca
Porto
Rome-Fiumicino
Valencia
Venice-Teviso
There are no other routes that Ryanair or Vueling operate or have said they will launch from BRU
Many of these routes look to be quite leisure centric - I doubt they will have a particularly large number of passengers connecting onto Africa via Brussels
Can anyone spot the pattern when comparing the 2 lists of routes ?
Is it possible that the chairman of BRU is perhaps being less than entirely open with what he's thinking and what he actually says ?
Vueling operate or are launching in the next few months the following routes:
Alicante
Barcelona
Ibiza
Lisbon
Malaga
Palma de Mallorca
Porto
Rome-Fiumicino
Santiago de Compostela
Valencia
Venice-Marco Polo
Ryanair will launch the following routes next year (FR don't fly to BRU right now)
Alicante
Barcelona
Ibiza
Lisbon
Malaga
Palma de Mallorca
Porto
Rome-Fiumicino
Valencia
Venice-Teviso
There are no other routes that Ryanair or Vueling operate or have said they will launch from BRU
Many of these routes look to be quite leisure centric - I doubt they will have a particularly large number of passengers connecting onto Africa via Brussels
Can anyone spot the pattern when comparing the 2 lists of routes ?
Is it possible that the chairman of BRU is perhaps being less than entirely open with what he's thinking and what he actually says ?
According to Descheemaecker the future of the airport in Zaventem could now be jeopardized. He fears that the Irish airline would provoke a 'disturbance'.
Descheemaecker calls to be 'strategically prudent' while dealing with the arrival of new players. "If Brussels Airlines becomes squeezed by Ryanair, the Belgian carrier might be forced to reduce its flights to Africa and travellers will have to fly from other European airports", he said.
No matter how much is the reason, I don't think such publicly expressed hostility towards a newcomer is a good start for a partnership.
Descheemaecker calls to be 'strategically prudent' while dealing with the arrival of new players. "If Brussels Airlines becomes squeezed by Ryanair, the Belgian carrier might be forced to reduce its flights to Africa and travellers will have to fly from other European airports", he said.
No matter how much is the reason, I don't think such publicly expressed hostility towards a newcomer is a good start for a partnership.
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Ryanair BHX Fri Evening
If you have booked the Fri evening flight with Ryanair (19:35) to ALC next summer you will be receiving a email cancelling the flight.
Unfortunately I had booked 9 (rtns) of these over the summer as it avoided time off work to get down to our place in Alicante.
All cancelled . .
Unfortunately I had booked 9 (rtns) of these over the summer as it avoided time off work to get down to our place in Alicante.
All cancelled . .
Well done Ryanair for holding flights from LGW by one hour to ensure people can get home for Christmas excellent customer service 
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"If Brussels Airlines becomes squeezed by Ryanair, the Belgian carrier might be forced to reduce its flights to Africa and travellers will have to fly from other European airports", he said.
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2nd based aircraft for Eindhoven base
I just found out that Eindhoven (EIN) will get a second based aircraft for S14. In S13 one based aircraft operated from EIN, with the earliest departure at 8.00 local time (7.00 slots were in the hands of Transavia). This summer season Ryanair has received 7.00 slots as well for working days (earliest departure allowed at EIN in the weekend is 08.00) and will use that for a very early morning return flight to London Stansted and on Thursday to Ibiza as well. No announcement has been made because a lot of the capacity will go to increased frequenties on existing routes, besides the new routes already announced: Knock and Catania.
For the ones interested, this is what the schedule for the based aircraft looks like (note the free space still available and that it's likely that the route to Bordeaux will be added on Saturday and Tuesday, just like last summer season):
Monday
EIN WMI mo 08:35 10:30
WMI EIN mo 10:55 12:55
EIN FEZ mo 13:50 16:20
FEZ EIN mo 16:45 21:10
EIN STN mo 7:00 7:05
STN EIN mo 7:30 9:35
EIN NOC mo 10:00 10:45
NOC EIN mo 11:10 13:45
EIN CHQ mo 14:35 19:00
CHQ EIN mo 19:25 22:05
Tuesday
EIN CCF di 7:45 9:30
CCF EIN di 9:55 11:40
EIN NOC di 12:05 12:50
NOC EIN di 13:15 15:50
EIN IBZ di 16:40 19:10
IBZ EIN di 19:45 22:15
EIN STN di 7:00 7:05
STN EIN di 7:30 9:35
SPACE AVAILABLE (most likely return flight Bordeaux)
EIN CTA di 15:55 18:40
CTA EIN di 19:15 22:00
Wednesday
EIN WMI wo 9:05 10:45
WMI EIN wo 11:10 13:10
EIN AGP wo 14:00 16:55
AGP EIN wo 17:30 20:35
EIN STN wo 7:00 7:05
STN EIN wo 7:30 9:35
SPACE AVAILABLE
EIN CIA wo 17:25 19:30
CIA EIN wo 19:55 22:15
Thursday
EIN STN do 7:00 7:05
STN EIN do 7:30 9:35
EIN NOC do 10:00 10:45
NOC EIN do 11:10 13:45
EIN CHQ do 14:35 19:00
CHQ EIN do 19:25 22:05
EIN IBZ do 7:00 9:30
IBZ EIN do 10:05 12:35
SPACE AVAILABLE (for just a 1hr flight single way (STN?)
EIN CTA do 15:55 18:40
CTA EIN do 19:15 22:00
Friday
EIN WMI vr 8:35 10:30
WMI EIN vr 10:55 12:55
EIN FEZ vr 13:45 16:15
FEZ EIN vr 16:40 21:05
EIN STN vr 7:00 7:05
STN EIN vr 7:30 9:35
EIN CIA vr 10:00 12:05
CIA EIN vr 12:30 14:50
SPACE AVAILABLE
Saturday
EIN STN za 8:15 8:20
STN EIN za 8:45 10:50
SPACE AVAILABLE (most likely return flight Bordeaux)
EIN CTA za 15:55 18:40
CTA EIN za 19:15 22:00
EIN CCF za 8:00 9:45
CCF EIN za 10:10 11:55
EIN NOC za 12:20 13:05
NOC EIN za 13:30 16:05
EIN IBZ za 16:40 19:10
IBZ EIN za 19:45 22:15
Sunday
EIN STN zo 8:15 8:20
STN EIN zo 8:45 10:50
EIN DUB zo 11:15 12:00
DUB EIN zo 12:25 15:05
SPACE AVAILABLE
EIN ACE zo 8:05 11:35
ACE EIN zo 12:10 17:20
EIN DUB zo 18:25 19:10
DUB EIN zo 19:35 22:15
For the ones interested, this is what the schedule for the based aircraft looks like (note the free space still available and that it's likely that the route to Bordeaux will be added on Saturday and Tuesday, just like last summer season):
Monday
EIN WMI mo 08:35 10:30
WMI EIN mo 10:55 12:55
EIN FEZ mo 13:50 16:20
FEZ EIN mo 16:45 21:10
EIN STN mo 7:00 7:05
STN EIN mo 7:30 9:35
EIN NOC mo 10:00 10:45
NOC EIN mo 11:10 13:45
EIN CHQ mo 14:35 19:00
CHQ EIN mo 19:25 22:05
Tuesday
EIN CCF di 7:45 9:30
CCF EIN di 9:55 11:40
EIN NOC di 12:05 12:50
NOC EIN di 13:15 15:50
EIN IBZ di 16:40 19:10
IBZ EIN di 19:45 22:15
EIN STN di 7:00 7:05
STN EIN di 7:30 9:35
SPACE AVAILABLE (most likely return flight Bordeaux)
EIN CTA di 15:55 18:40
CTA EIN di 19:15 22:00
Wednesday
EIN WMI wo 9:05 10:45
WMI EIN wo 11:10 13:10
EIN AGP wo 14:00 16:55
AGP EIN wo 17:30 20:35
EIN STN wo 7:00 7:05
STN EIN wo 7:30 9:35
SPACE AVAILABLE
EIN CIA wo 17:25 19:30
CIA EIN wo 19:55 22:15
Thursday
EIN STN do 7:00 7:05
STN EIN do 7:30 9:35
EIN NOC do 10:00 10:45
NOC EIN do 11:10 13:45
EIN CHQ do 14:35 19:00
CHQ EIN do 19:25 22:05
EIN IBZ do 7:00 9:30
IBZ EIN do 10:05 12:35
SPACE AVAILABLE (for just a 1hr flight single way (STN?)
EIN CTA do 15:55 18:40
CTA EIN do 19:15 22:00
Friday
EIN WMI vr 8:35 10:30
WMI EIN vr 10:55 12:55
EIN FEZ vr 13:45 16:15
FEZ EIN vr 16:40 21:05
EIN STN vr 7:00 7:05
STN EIN vr 7:30 9:35
EIN CIA vr 10:00 12:05
CIA EIN vr 12:30 14:50
SPACE AVAILABLE
Saturday
EIN STN za 8:15 8:20
STN EIN za 8:45 10:50
SPACE AVAILABLE (most likely return flight Bordeaux)
EIN CTA za 15:55 18:40
CTA EIN za 19:15 22:00
EIN CCF za 8:00 9:45
CCF EIN za 10:10 11:55
EIN NOC za 12:20 13:05
NOC EIN za 13:30 16:05
EIN IBZ za 16:40 19:10
IBZ EIN za 19:45 22:15
Sunday
EIN STN zo 8:15 8:20
STN EIN zo 8:45 10:50
EIN DUB zo 11:15 12:00
DUB EIN zo 12:25 15:05
SPACE AVAILABLE
EIN ACE zo 8:05 11:35
ACE EIN zo 12:10 17:20
EIN DUB zo 18:25 19:10
DUB EIN zo 19:35 22:15
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Does anyone know if Ryanair & WestJet have any sort of relationship either in place, or planned?
Since WestJet announced their intention to do Low Cost transatlantic next year into DUB the rumours of Ryanair doing likewise seem to have died off. Also in one of their press releases, WestJet stated that one of their deciding reasons for DUB was the ability to tap into the wide European low cost flight network from there.
It would seem a little risky to have at least part of the basis for a new route being the ability to tap into someone else's routes without having at least some sort of agreement between the two sides.......
Since WestJet announced their intention to do Low Cost transatlantic next year into DUB the rumours of Ryanair doing likewise seem to have died off. Also in one of their press releases, WestJet stated that one of their deciding reasons for DUB was the ability to tap into the wide European low cost flight network from there.
It would seem a little risky to have at least part of the basis for a new route being the ability to tap into someone else's routes without having at least some sort of agreement between the two sides.......
Donkey - what sort of relationship do you think would likely prove worthwhile to both airlines, bearing in mind the cost of setting up appropriate back office systems and any EU261 related constraints ?
I ask this as a genuine question, as I can't really see a big commercial incentive to FR for any kind of great commitment at this stage. Would something like each airline putting a weblink to the other carrier in a suitable place on their websites suffice ?
I ask this as a genuine question, as I can't really see a big commercial incentive to FR for any kind of great commitment at this stage. Would something like each airline putting a weblink to the other carrier in a suitable place on their websites suffice ?
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To be honest, I couldn't give a monkeys what kind of arrangement there might be between them & I hadn't thought about it in the slightest.
I just wondered if there had been any mention of a tie up as the musings on behalf of Ryanair about launching one or more T/A routes seemed to go all quiet just before WestJet made their initial announcement & their subsequent press release talking about tapping into the European route network.
I'm just wondering if we have 2 apples + 2 oranges making 4 pieces of fruit, or just coincidentally being 2 apples & 2 oranges.........
To be honest, I couldn't give a monkeys what kind of arrangement there might be between them & I hadn't thought about it in the slightest.
I just wondered if there had been any mention of a tie up as the musings on behalf of Ryanair about launching one or more T/A routes seemed to go all quiet just before WestJet made their initial announcement & their subsequent press release talking about tapping into the European route network.
I'm just wondering if we have 2 apples + 2 oranges making 4 pieces of fruit, or just coincidentally being 2 apples & 2 oranges.........
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Does anyone have any idea if Bournemouth might get the Wroclaw route back again for next summer loads have been about 85 / 90 % throughout the summer but i am guessing as always its all about the yield
Other wise it looks like BOH has escaped quite lightly with route reductions and frequency cuts for next summer all the same as this year
Other wise it looks like BOH has escaped quite lightly with route reductions and frequency cuts for next summer all the same as this year
Reasonably good numbers for December--------------
Ryanair News
News Release
Ryanair, Europe’s favourite low fares airline, today (2 Jan) released December traffic statistics as follows:
Ryanair’s Robin Kiely said:
“Ryanair carried a new record of over 5m customers in December, thanks to the success of our lower fares, easier to use website and customer service improvements. Further service improvements are due to be rolled out over the coming weeks and months as Ryanair continues to lower prices and improve our industry leading customer service in 2014.”
Ryanair News
News Release
02.01.14
Ryanair December Traffic Grows 4% To 5m CustomersRyanair, Europe’s favourite low fares airline, today (2 Jan) released December traffic statistics as follows:
- Traffic grew by 4% to over 5m customers.
- Load factor unchanged at 81%.
- Annual traffic to December rose 2% to 81.4m customers.
Dec 12
Dec 13
Change
Yr to Dec 13
Customers4.8M
5.0M
+4%
81.4M (+2%)
Load Factor 81%
81%
-
83%
Ryanair’s Robin Kiely said:
“Ryanair carried a new record of over 5m customers in December, thanks to the success of our lower fares, easier to use website and customer service improvements. Further service improvements are due to be rolled out over the coming weeks and months as Ryanair continues to lower prices and improve our industry leading customer service in 2014.”
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Load factor remaining static tells you the number of seats flown growing at the same level as passengers.
What we will not know until the next board meeting is the yield.
No doubt someone can tell us how many aircraft they have in the fleet vs last year.
What we will not know until the next board meeting is the yield.
No doubt someone can tell us how many aircraft they have in the fleet vs last year.
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New base in Lisbon?
Looks like Ryanair will open a base at Lisbon from 2nd April 2014.
The morning Stansted flight FR1885 will now leave Lisbon at 06:40, arriving at Stansted at 09:20. FR1884 now leaves Stansted at 09:45 and gets to Lisbon at 12:25. The evening service remains the same with a Stansted based aircraft.
Also the Beauvais route will now go daily with FR1887 leaving Lisbon at 11:45, arriving in Beauvais at 15:10. FR1886 leaves Beauvais now at 15:35 and arriving back in Lisbon at 17:00.
The new timings suggest at least 2 based aircraft as the morning Stansted service doesn't get back in time for the Paris route. I assume we can expect lots of new routes from Lisbon very soon!
The morning Stansted flight FR1885 will now leave Lisbon at 06:40, arriving at Stansted at 09:20. FR1884 now leaves Stansted at 09:45 and gets to Lisbon at 12:25. The evening service remains the same with a Stansted based aircraft.
Also the Beauvais route will now go daily with FR1887 leaving Lisbon at 11:45, arriving in Beauvais at 15:10. FR1886 leaves Beauvais now at 15:35 and arriving back in Lisbon at 17:00.
The new timings suggest at least 2 based aircraft as the morning Stansted service doesn't get back in time for the Paris route. I assume we can expect lots of new routes from Lisbon very soon!
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Lisbon
Absolutely looks like a LIS base. The RAK and FEZ bases were discovered the exact same way, with 06.30 departures from those airports. A week later the two bases were annouced.
Back in 2012 this image was released with the possible destinations.
Details added: 8 based aircraft and 4 mil. pax each year.
Back in 2012 this image was released with the possible destinations.
Details added: 8 based aircraft and 4 mil. pax each year.
