Ryanair - 9

[racedo]

An example of this is found in some retailers in N America. If you walk in off the street as a complete stranger, prices displayed are high. Sign up for a store chain loyalty card and agree to being sent 'useful marketing messages', and the more you shop, the lower the prices, thus locking in customer loyalty. Part of this of course involves the retailer being able to 'monetise' the data about you and not just your purchasing history but also details of any product enquiries you may have made.

US Retailers also sgement on basis of how many returns you make as well, i.e. the lets buy the pretty party frock for 1 night and return next day bint gets classified V quickly.

If the price displayed to the customer is substantiallyaffected by web browsing / purchasing / Facebook / Google+ history, then Ryanair need to be very careful - Ryanair may end up doing the commoditised low-profit-margin high-commercial-risk flying while more of the value in the airline business accrues to Google. I do not believe Ryanair are remotely capable on their own of making use of the value of big data / data science.

No but why would they need to when people like Dunhumby etc would do all of that segmenting for them.

[Hangar6]

Predator v alien

FR kills off sky scanner and google kills off ??
Me thinks Ducksie is going to have his lunch eaten on this one , he never liked the interweb and google is so much better at eating customers,

[SealinkBF]

I think this is simply like when I do a Google search for "Glasgow Hotels", I get links to prices via Google.

So if I check "Tenerife flights" presumably some of the results will be live prices.

[Sober Lark]

Whatever about the nicer face of Ryanair, one things certain, Leo never puts away his Swords.

[LAX_LHR]

Anybody know what is going on with MAN-BCN?

Its currently got 2 flights in the system for the football in March, but someone on the MAN thread suggested daily flights would be loaded, with flight numbers etc from March 30th.

In the 'new routes' section of the Ryanair site, it has in the Manchester section 'Barcelona from 12th March' (the football flights), but then in the Barcelona section, it has 'Manchester from 30th March' (obviously non football).

As of yet, no flights have been loaded from 30th March, nothing in GDS or in other sources. Is the route going ahead or not?

[MANFOD]

LAX-LHR, I think there are a few of us who are intrigued to know just what routes FR will be operating at MAN this summer.

Various other routes have been mentioned, possibly because of slot applications, and we still only have DUB at 18 flights weekly on their web site as far as I know, compared to the 30 or more that were mooted.

[pee]

Whatever about the nicer face of Ryanair, one things certain, Leo never puts away his Swords

Even with the best intentions (nicer face etc.), there is too much ongoing chaos related to the future flights (routes, timetables), nothing seems to be 100% sure. Will Ryanair's nicer face compensate the current degree of uncertainty, most probably influencing its sales?

[LAX_LHR]

Various other routes have been mentioned, possibly because of slot
applications, and we still only have DUB at 18 flights weekly on their web site
as far as I know, compared to the 30 or more that were mooted.

Yes its all a bit up in the air right now. Oporto, Zadar and Skavsta have been rumoured, with Dublin increase actually announced as you say, and Barcelona is appearing on the Ryanair website as a new route from 30th March but nothing loaded.

[j636]

The daily MAN-BCN route was available until the middle of last week before it was removed from sale.

[durry]

What a Micky Mouse bunch they are. Passengers can`t rely on their routes any more , one minute it`a on then it`s off....amateurism

[MANFOD]

J636, If El Prat has gone, I see on the FR web site that Girona is still only 3 x weekly. As someone else pointed out, it was originally showing as 10 x weekly but then reduced to daily. Then when El Prat appeared, Girona went down to 3 x weekly.

Goodness knows what we'll finish up with, but 31 March is not all that far off in terms of what's bookable. There may be some clues if anyone learns what slots have been returned by the end of this month.

[Keyvon]

Ryanair has announced two new bases: Athens and Thessaloniki, starting from next April.
Ryanair Announces New Athens Thessaloniki Bases (No 63 64)

9 new routes including Stansted-Athens.

[CCFAIRPORT]

RYANAIR OPENS 4 MANCHESTER ROUTES IN 2014



BARCELONA, BOLOGNA, FUERTEVENTURA & GRAN CANARIA
& INCREASED FLIGHTS ON 5 EXISTING ROUTES
OVER 2M PASSENGERS & 2,000 JOBS AT MANCHESTER

Ryanair, Europe’s favourite low fares airline, today (15 Jan) announced it will open 4 new routes from Manchester (in March 2014) as well as adding frequencies on 5 existing routes, which will deliver 2,100,000 passengers p.a. and support 2,100* on-site jobs at Manchester Airport.

Ryanair’s growth at Manchester from March 2014 will deliver:

· 4 new routes to Barcelona, Bologna, Fuerteventura & Gran Canaria
· 36 Manchester routes in total
· More flights on 5 existing routes – Dublin, Ibiza, Lanzarote, Malaga & Tenerife
· Over 2.1m Ryanair passengers p.a. at Manchester
· Over 2,100* jobs sustained at Manchester Airport

Ryanair celebrated its 4 new routes and increased frequencies by releasing 100,000 seats on sale at prices from £16.99 for travel in Feb and Mar, which are available for booking until midnight Thursday (16 Jan).

Ryanair’s Maria Macken said:

“Ryanair is pleased to deliver 4 new European routes to/from Manchester to Barcelona, Bologna, Fuerteventura and Gran Canaria, as well as increased frequencies on 5 existing routes, which will deliver over 2.1m passengers per annum and sustain over 2,100* “on-site” jobs at Manchester Airport.”

[ssflyer]

GRO

MANFOD-at least there are flights from MAN,FR have now pulled their BHX/GRO 3xweekly down to a fat zero!

[All names taken]

I see RYR are still using that old-fashioned pax/jobs calculation method:
2.1 mill pax = 2,100 jobs.

Well, frankly put: total BS / lies /misleading / call it what you want.

The research that produced that correlation was based on the days when full service (and over-staffed) carriers ruled the air waves. RYR have been pace setters in destroying that model and cutting staff numbers to the bone. Additionally, their outrageous baggage charges have ensured that employment amongst baggage handlers continues to dwindle.

Sorry RYR you can't have it both ways.

[RAT 5]

Look at it the other way: are RYR saying that if they pulled out then 2100 people would lose their jobs? I don't think so. They are still in their ivory tower feeding themselves on the arrogant seeds and thinking the world owes them everything. How many other carriers are there at Manchester, and since how long has RYR been there? It's not been that long and are they also saying that 2100 jobs have been created since RYR joined the party?
The more they open their mouths the more we know the truth. Eisenhower had it correct. "it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool, than to open it and confirm the truth." All the other airline staff must be laughing in their disbelief.

[racedo]

All the other airline staff must be laughing in their disbelief.

You mean like
Malev
Sky Europe
BMI-Baby
Air Polonia
etc
etc
etc
etc etc

[eu01]

Something positive in the wind. A new group booking service, just introduced by Ryanair, will allow groups of at least 20 pax to block book seats on a flight with the person booking without including the names of all the passengers at the time of booking.

The new booking page gives some information.

How to make a group booking?
Group Terms & Conditions

• Min Group 20 (no max)
• Quote Valid for (7) days (subject to seat/flight availability)
• Payment 100% at time of booking.
• Credit card fee 2%, debit card free
• Names 50% of names due halfway between booking date & outbound departure date
• Balance due 14 days in advance of outbound departure date
• Name changes within 14 days of outbound departure, €50/£50 per person per sector
• Optional extras Normal rules apply
• Date/Route changes Normal rules apply.

In principle, a very good move, I'd only like to know what will be the price level when compared to the individual bookings, very much depends on that.

[RAT 5]

Racedo: You are too selective in your thoughts. There are some big players at Manchester, both EU & international. I doubt they or MAN are setting out their business plans at the whim of RYR. They are new-come bit players relative to the older residents. MAN has been a major airport long before RYR rose from the ashes.
I do not doubt RYR has brought many riches to many regions, but to say that MAN has 2100 job dependant on RYR is a speculation too far.

[eu01]

Let's have a brief look at the flight schedules on a new route from Athens to Thessaloniki:

Sat, May 10 2014

Flight.. Depart - Arrive

FR10... 06:25 - 07:20
FR18... 07:45 - 08:40
FR16... 17:30 - 18:25
FR35... 18:50 - 19:45
FR12... 20:10 - 21:05
FR28... 22:05 - 23:00

The Thessalonian population is 322,240 (city) / 790,824 (urban). A great... vision or madness?