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Old 17th Jan 2015, 09:10
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MOL due at GLA on Tuesday morning ! More city routes , or moving the PIK routes to where they'll make him more money ?
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Old 17th Jan 2015, 10:31
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If something is in the pipeline I'm not convinced it would involve moving anything particularly major from PIK, they need it to be open to keep leverage on GLA - Plus the S15 flights from PIK have been on sale a while now, if they were going to move them they would surely have announced that when they went on sale?

FR schedules can obviously chop and change, but the last time I looked at the FR GLA S15 schedule it looked like it needed another based aircraft on Wednesdays from June. One aircraft bases don't seem that common and perhaps don't give the best economies, so imo it's pretty likely they'd look to expand if the existing flights are doing well.
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Old 17th Jan 2015, 10:44
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Anyone know if Ryanair are running Derry to Faro *only* for July this summer?

For the last several years it has run from around May - October with good load factors but this year only July is available which seems odd.

Surely they would have their Summer 2015 schedule finalised by now or could they still be working it out?
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Old 18th Jan 2015, 11:54
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Id imagine that all summer service are finalised.
Many cork services are only June and July this year too, so Derry will probably have an only July service.
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 12:23
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Press conference the 21 of January at Paris-Orly Airport

link in french sorry

Transavia veut devenir N°1 à Orly? avant l'arrivée de Ryanair?
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Old 19th Jan 2015, 12:40
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MOL in Glasgow tomorrow so possible announcement there also
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Old 20th Jan 2015, 09:47
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Glasgow to London to go 4 daily and new route to Berlin announced
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 11:38
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Press conference in Paris was a non event. FR won't start flying at Orly due to lack of slots but is interested in the idea of CDG in the future.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 12:13
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They did however announce BVA-Thessaloniki, Wroclaw & Palermo today
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 13:08
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Ryanair @ NCL

I'm sure Ryanair could make some money from the North East to European destinations

Berlin
Breman
Frankfurt hann
Lisbon
Warsaw etc

Just a few
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 13:22
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They did however announce BVA-Thessaloniki, Wroclaw & Palermo today
Wroclaw? The nearest flight BVA - WRO is scheduled to depart... today. What's new in that "announcement"?
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 13:47
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BVA-PMO

...and Beauvais-Palermo had already been announced at the Palermo press conference around 17th December last...
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 15:46
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TRANSPORTS Ryanair ajoute 3 destinations au départ de Beauvais - Région - Courrier picard
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 17:58
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Just to complete the trio, not only are today's announcements of Beauvais-Palermo and Beauvais-Wroclaw old news, but Beauvais-Thessaloniki is also old news as well.

We seem to have a press conference at Paris-Orly airport in which Ryanair says it won't be starting any routes (or making any changes at all) at Orly and will not be setting up a base in France but would like to tell everyone about 3 routes at a different airport which were in fact announced long ago. Ryanair having stated very clearly that it would not consider flying from Paris-CDG would like everyone to know it's an interesting idea (often a corporate uphemism in english for 'that is a crazy idea').

So what on earth was the point of the press conference ? We now have someone senior contradicting recently stated corporate plans. Furthermore, after plenty of talk about flying from Amsterdam, Munich and Paris-Orly, all of which seem unlikely to happen in the near future, one might wonder if the new strategy of flying from major airports is actually not going to work. Is Ryanair perhaps realising that the new strategy of using airports near where people want to go is going to be more difficult to implement profitably than MOL had promised shareholders and the press ?

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Old 21st Jan 2015, 20:43
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A cynic might surmise that the Paris press conference was perhaps called by Ryanair in the hope that a commercial negotiation with Aéroports de Paris would turn out favourably in time to make a big announcement (and as a way to put some pressure on AdP to make concessions), but then AdP unexpectedly didn't play ball, and rather than lose face by cancelling the press conference entirely, Ryanair reheated some well-past-its-sell-by-date BVA route news as a flimsy pretext.

Complete conjecture on my part, of course, but why else hold a press conference with no news?
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 06:21
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I think it must be near tantilising that Transavia France is entering the Dublin Paris market. Yes it is only a daily rotation, but past events have shown us that even a daily rotation into the Irish market result in carnage.

This to my mind was about a Gatwick type operation for Ryanair, a few important routes ex Orly, a high cost airport but given significant market size and ability to collect above average fares making it attractive. I suspect it was on the cards but the deal couldn't be sealed.

Take note easyJet, time to reconsider, CDG, GVA and SEN to Dublin, you wont have a response from Ryanair on those specific routes... A little off topic I suspect.

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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 16:05
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A cynic might surmise that the Paris press conference was perhaps called by Ryanair in the hope that a commercial negotiation with Aéroports de Paris would turn out favourably in time to make a big announcement (and as a way to put some pressure on AdP to make concessions), but then AdP unexpectedly didn't play ball, and rather than lose face by cancelling the press conference entirely, Ryanair reheated some well-past-its-sell-by-date BVA route news as a flimsy pretext.

Complete conjecture on my part, of course, but why else hold a press conference with no news?
Unlikely as ORY or CDG don't need FR but FR need them and those airports would have no real reason to offer FR discounts or even enter talks. Take it or leave it.
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 15:48
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There are a couple of comments in other forums stating that FR have "been in talks" this year with BHD and BFS. Anyone here able to confirm this?
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 16:15
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BHD won't happen without a runway extension
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Old 28th Jan 2015, 20:12
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MOL is on the record as having said the following, this broadly what he said;

• Until BHD have runway extension , we won't go back, the price is right. The runway is restrictive and we can't serve Europe or longer routes profitably.

• BFS won't give a deal, they don't want to upset easyJet.

So unless BFS has changed it stance, nothing going to happen. Though has to be said if FR brought a sizeable operation to BFS , they could draw quite a few pax who might normally use DUB. Ie those who live equidistant to Dublin airport, eg from Louth, Monaghan, Fermanagh, Donegal, Leitrim etc...

Not an easy decision for BFS...
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