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Old 9th Aug 2013, 09:38
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Cairo – Manchester 5 weekly service is currently unavailable for reservation
on/after 27OCT13
Its a weird one, as the Egyptair timetable shows it operating 5 weekly, but it is showing as back bookable on all platforms from 1st April onwards.
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Old 9th Aug 2013, 10:12
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Its a weird one, as the Egyptair timetable shows it operating 5 weekly, but it is showing as back bookable on all platforms from 1st April onwards.
So maybe it will become a seasonal route?
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So maybe it will become a seasonal route?
Seems most likely, however on asking around it seems a few people are adamant that it will be year round, with some suggesting Egyptair have signed a full 2 year, year round contract at MAN?
The story I was told was that a tour company has brought the entre allocation of seats for the winter season, thus making the flight a 'charter' route for the winter, but, it seems a definitive answer is not forthcoming
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Old 9th Aug 2013, 10:26
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I do hear Cairo is the new Tenerife now
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I do hear Cairo is the new Tenerife now
Are you telling me the 'hustle and bustle' of Tahrir Square does not appeal to you?
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Old 9th Aug 2013, 15:46
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Re Egypt Air,

How are the loads holding up amongst all the chaos in Cairo at present.Pity they can't re route it to SSH for a while as things seem fine on that coast ?

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How are the loads holding up amongst all the chaos in Cairo at present
Loads seem to hover between 80-110, which for a 124 seat aircraft is not too bad.
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Old 9th Aug 2013, 19:42
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Transfer passengers to other middle eastern cities. Business and VFR traffic.
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Old 9th Aug 2013, 21:20
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Egyptair MAN - Cairo

I'm using the flight at the end of the month, business class with a 2 hr transfer to Amman. Price and timings were very good. No other airline came close. I will report back
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Yes thats a pretty good load especially in the current climate there.

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Old 9th Aug 2013, 22:59
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Egyptair

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June - 3597 pax per the CAA on MAN-CAI

Planespotters.net show two configs for the 738 16/144 or 24/120.

June shows 44 rotations = 82 pax per flight.

Load factor 57% at best.

All things considered an amazing load factor.

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Old 10th Aug 2013, 06:25
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57% at worst

68% at best, unless my ancient maths is on the blink.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 09:49
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PAX 3597/44 flights = 82 pax per flight

44 flights at 144 seats = 6336 seats maximum = 57% load factor

44 flights at 160 seats = 7040 seats maximum = 51% Load factor

The figures you have used seem to be based on 120 seats.

Not many 738's flying with a 120 config even schedule airlines.

I just can't get it to 68% using anything other than 120 config which per th databases I have checked does not exist on the MS 738.

It that was the first month of operation in the current climate it seems pretty good - 68% would be brilliant.



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Old 10th Aug 2013, 11:22
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Most of the loads I have seen recently have been around 100 mark which
does give a 68% load give or take a bit

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Old 10th Aug 2013, 13:25
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Saudi

They can put on 10 flights a day to Jeddah as far as I'm concerned and I for one will not be on one.

I'm out there every month and it's EY every time. MAN-AUH-JED and return.

5 hour wait in AUH is perfect for raising my blood alcohol level before entering the evil kingdom.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 13:41
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Minimum Fuel

A friendly 'heads-up' to aircrews: if you are operating inbound to MAN/EGCC on Summer season Saturday lunchtimes [11:30-14:30Z], turning up at the hold with minimum fuel is a seriously bad idea. Remember, MAN/EGCC is not a tranquil backwater despite what some would like to believe! And don't forget, we haven't even started with the extra football traffic yet (coming soon!).

Memo to MAG: Time to look at funding dual runway ops during this period? This is not unique to Summer 2013. Unless the economy implodes between now and Summer 2014, you need to be planning for dual ops during these hours next year. And whilst Saturday is the worst bottleneck, certain other days merit a close look early-afternoon too.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 14:03
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Shed, do you have a crystal ball? Two week trial of extended R2 hours coming soon.
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Old 10th Aug 2013, 22:09
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Olton pete,

Thanks for the Egyptair breakdown, as you say over 50% in the current climate in Egypt is good, hope it returns to MAN next year if it is to be seasonal ?

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Old 11th Aug 2013, 04:51
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hope it returns to MAN next year if it is to be seasonal
It is already bookable from 1st April 2014 onwards. Still 5 weekly on B737-800
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Old 12th Aug 2013, 07:06
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I think for MAN to move forward, it is imperative that a full taxiway system is finished for southern runway, I appreciate that restrictions are in place during certain hours but this should have been buil during construction. I would imagine that MAG have plans drawn up. Anybody else know anything?
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