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Old 28th Jul 2013, 12:25
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Re the retina scan, I only know what we were told in my bit of the queue and I certainly saw `it' not working! I'm also missing something fundamental here for why scan when everyone who flies carries photo id - you had to have a passport, etc, to get through security and onto the aircraft at Ronaldsway?
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 14:14
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I assume that you are talking about taxiway Q .
the problem I think, is that if there are any acft parked on stands 61 round to 63 there is not enough room for acft to use Q and with the airport using some ot the 80 stands at the top end of txy N as a car park more acft are using the 60,s to park
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Old 28th Jul 2013, 21:32
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Sorry but why do they need biometrics at T3 at all? Are they now offering international to international transfers without clearing immigration?
It's standard when flying domestic at LHR and LGW for this reason but it is a faff.

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Old 29th Jul 2013, 16:17
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Taxiway Q

This was designed many years ago to allow two routes for aircraft to access Terminal 2 and the big cul de sac at busy times to minimize taxying delays. Obviously it required that stands (61-65?)were not in use.

As the based fleets grew up with their night stops, it was impossible to accommodate them all without using these stands and so it fell into infrequent use. Now the based fleets have reduced, but so have the number of aircraft stands, to be used for the far more lucrative car parking.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 02:43
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Well T3 security was much better yesterday morning (this time I had a priority pass) but the queue was shorter in the slow queue. Very annoying.
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 05:13
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I'm not local to Manchester so may be missing something but what has happened in relation to the submission by MAG to the Davies Commission, specifically in relation to Manchester rather than "The Group" , it appears to either have not been released or placed in a "to file" tray to gather dust.

I really thought this was a golden opportunity to change thinking from the same old , same old and really put Manchester on the map but instead the opportunity to change the mind of opinion makers has been completely lost.

Since the purchase of STN the current management appear from the outside at least to have completely disowned the place.

OK Airport City is going ahead BUT it needs planes, not just buildings!

The Stansted website carries grandiose vision of a four runway system at Stansted but as for a contribution by Manchester sitting slap bang in the middle of the country with three terminals and two runways and enough capacity to handle another 20m pax a year Now !

NOTHING !

It seems even more bizarre when ;


  • Two prominent Manchester MPs fought a good case for Manchester
  • The Chairman H. Davies is from Manchester
  • Former MAG CEO Geoff Muirhead is also on the Commission
I believe they even came to MANCHESTER in July, the ONLY place outside Parliament to hold a hearing !

Despite all this potential momentum it seems to have stopped somewhat before the threshold of 23R !



What happened to strident demands for;
  • Separation in bilaterals
  • US pre clearance
  • Highlighting the impact of APD
And more importantly what about the marketing and the clear, concise placing of these issues in a prominent place so as to form a part of the overall discussion ?
You would be forgiven for thinking Manchester did not exist !

It's as though both the MPs AND the Commission handed the opportunity to MAG to say "come on this is your chance" but since purchasing STN they have contributed "diddly squat" to the debate.

I do not wish to harp back but by way of comparison can you really imagine Gil Thomson squandering such opportunities ?

OK build your multiple runways in the South East but at least then use that as makeweight for your own demands.

AND meanwhile we are now down to two bidders for Chicago, Midway !

I cannot for the life of me understand why MPs, local Government who are after all shareholders and even the airports usual mouthpiece the Manchester Evening News is not scratching their combined heads and at least not questioning the strategy.

I sincerely hope its a case of quiet diplomacy but I cannot help forming the opinion that Manchester has been abandoned in the face of a "perceived" dash for cash in the South East !

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Old 30th Jul 2013, 08:20
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Not had a chance to read them yet, but here is the MAG submission to the Davies Commission

http://www.magworld.co.uk/magweb.nsf/AttachmentsByTitle/LongTermCapacity/$file/Long+Term+Capacity+Options.pdf

Edit This doesn't seem to want to hotlink, so go here

MAG World - Home

Type Davies Commission in the search box in the top RH corner and it's the document entitled long term options

And here is the transcript of the Oral evidence session featuring MAG which was held in London; the Manchester session covering the environment.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...-july-2013.pdf

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Old 30th Jul 2013, 11:52
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Not enough passengers and I don't think it will ever happen even if there was lots of passengers. Which terminal would have the room for it anyway?

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Old 30th Jul 2013, 21:20
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Many thanks as ever suzeman

Stansted appears in the text 359 times

Manchester just 93.......

Not scientific BUT possibly proves a point ?
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Old 30th Jul 2013, 21:31
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I'm not local to Manchester so may be missing something but what has happened in relation to the submission by MAG to the Davies Commission, specifically in relation to Manchester rather than "The Group" , it appears to either have not been released or placed in a "to file" tray to gather dust.
Isn't that you Bagso ?
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Old 31st Jul 2013, 14:35
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Thank you MAG

Greater Manchester town halls share in £48m bonanza from airport's bumper year - Manchester Evening News
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Old 31st Jul 2013, 19:02
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Ryanair have increased DUB-MAN to 31 weekly.

Flights will be 4 daily Mon-Thu, and 5 daily Fri-Sun.

Along with Aer Lingus increasing MAN-DUB to 5 daily, this now makes MAN-DUB 66 weekly, with 10 daily Fri-Sun. Almost as much as MAN-LHR!

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Old 1st Aug 2013, 18:41
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Old 2nd Aug 2013, 17:35
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Fancy flying in a B747-300 from GLA-MAN and BHX-MAN?

Well, if a group of businessmen get their way (which they won't), they are aiming to start an airline called Air Kashmir and run MAN-GLA-LHE and MAN-BHX-ISB on the B747-300. The aircraft would be based at MAN.

I wouldn't hold your breath just yet though, UK international anyone.....
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Old 2nd Aug 2013, 18:49
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Would this be the same jokers who tried 'Pak British Airlines' a couple of months ago? Certainly seems like it to me as the routes are exactly the same as 'Pak British'!

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Old 3rd Aug 2013, 19:06
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a new scottish limited company called air kashmir international was incorporated at companies house on 3rd April 2013.......................
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Old 5th Aug 2013, 11:34
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I notice that Easyjet are selling one-way Manchester to Moscow flights booked about a month in advance for between £30 and £40 one way, with a wide choice of dates from early September onwards. Looking today for 4th September (30 days ahead), you can fly for the bargain price of £28 one way. A flight in October from Moscow to Manchester can be purchased for just £20

For a 4 hour flight on a route that went on sale last year, this seems remarkably cheap - does this suggest that the route is perhaps struggling a little ?

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Old 5th Aug 2013, 11:47
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For a 4 hour flight on a route that went on sale last year, this seems
remarkably cheap - does this suggest that the route is perhaps struggling a
little
Maybe time of year? Ill have to dig them out (unless someone beats me to it), but there are several quotes from Carolyn McCall and head of sales saying the route was performing above expectation, with one quote hinting the yield on MAN-DME was higher than LGW-DME.

Edited: Found some quotes:

For now, even visas don't seem to be a huge obstacle. Although
easyJet only started selling tickets for the Moscow-London route
in January and the Moscow-Manchester route in December, bookings
have already surpassed expectations
Read more: EasyJet Starts Flights to U.K. From Domodedovo | News | The Moscow Times
The Moscow Times

The second quote:

Watkins: A little bird tells me that the yields from here to Moscow are better than those being achieved in London?

Spratt: Are they? I couldn’t possibly comment on actual figures, but it does makes sense, as London to Moscow is a far more competitive market than what we face up here, where we are the only airline serving the route direct.

So not a firm yes, but not a no either, so definitely hinting that yield could have been higher (at least at one point).

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Old 5th Aug 2013, 16:48
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Wonder if we could see any increase in traffic on the MAN-NYC routes as it has been announced the New York Yankees and Manchester City FC have joined forces to create a new Manhattan football club and stadium on pier 40.

Even if it is a few more front end seats sold for the executives, it would do, anf with EY/AA codesharing, and EY sponsoring Man City, surely AA could upgrade the AA210/211 to a larger aircraft at the very least?
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Old 5th Aug 2013, 17:08
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Check this out, then ask yourself, can you really see this happening ? I think not, complete and utter nonsense !

A quick WHOIS search shows it registered to a certain Abdul Rahman Hanif from a residential address in Kilmarnock. Complete and utter joke surely.

Air Kashmir International

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