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Summer 13 ACL
Is it just my imagination or is this the first year that ACL have actually made the Report available in advance of the start of the season?
A few years ago I did have access to the reports however my contacts then moved on and so I was unable to get hold of the files. I did check on the ACL site, but the reports only seemed to be available on an historic basis.
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A few years ago I did have access to the reports however my contacts then moved on and so I was unable to get hold of the files. I did check on the ACL site, but the reports only seemed to be available on an historic basis.
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it does say
which is wrong, its 3 flts a week, only 1 flt on a Sunday.
CX - Cathay Pacific Cargo - Increase from three to four per week to HKG with B747-400F, Weds, Thu and two on Sundays. Slots
are held for a fifth service from September.
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Car parking on apron
Heard a whisper that car parking is to be extended on the aircraft stands of the west apron, in particular the cargo stands, is there any truth in this ?
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Heard a whisper that car parking is to be extended on the aircraft stands of the west apron, in particular the cargo stands, is there any truth in this ?
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Heard a whisper that car parking is to be extended on the aircraft stands of the west apron, in particular the cargo stands, is there any truth in this ?
It seems MAN is about to have the potential to be one of the busiest summers in a long time (given the number of new routes, upgrades and added frequencies, not to mention the most foreign charter ops Ive seen in a long time), with carriers adding more based aircraft and poised to add even more next summer, so, whats the most logical thing to do..... that's right take away more, and may I add, needed, parking stands.
Genius
Rather than scrounge for land off the whole reason you are an airport, why not build a multi-storey car park on the many acres of land you just got permission to build on? Oh no, that's too sensible.
While you are at it, taking aircraft stands from an airport for car parking, why not just remove all the jetties and call yourself Trafford Centre MK2
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Planning permission! you cannot just change land usage at the drop of a hat
as for building a muli storey very unlikely council will just give permission and then have a car park up in a jiff No chance!
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as for building a muli storey very unlikely council will just give permission and then have a car park up in a jiff No chance!
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Planning permission! you cannot just change land usage at the drop of a hat
as for building a multi storey very unlikely council will just give permission and then have a car park up in a jiff No chance
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Airport City and a car park for the passengers are a totally different thing and why would you put a car park up where all the jobs are to be created
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Please tell me more LAX_LHR and anyway from what I can see this is only
at stop gap and as soon as traffic demands it will go back to it`s proper use, T1 multi-storey is well past it`s best by date and was told that about 10 years ago
as it was an off the shelf one but has been modified repaired numerous times.
I`m sure there are plans for car parking that will be revealed when the time is right and no I don`t know anything
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at stop gap and as soon as traffic demands it will go back to it`s proper use, T1 multi-storey is well past it`s best by date and was told that about 10 years ago
as it was an off the shelf one but has been modified repaired numerous times.
I`m sure there are plans for car parking that will be revealed when the time is right and no I don`t know anything
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from what I can see this is only a stop gap and as soon as traffic
demands it will go back to it`s proper use
demands it will go back to it`s proper use
Please tell me more LAX_LHR
You then used the excuse of basically no room as the airport city is a separate development and its needed space for jobs. Considering the extent of the landscaping, it seems space is no a huge issue. In fact, the number of proposed jobs vs car parking for AC, wouldn't be surprised if they needed even more space for the automobile.
At the end of the day, they do make more money on car parking than aircraft stands, that is not what I was debating, not even close. I have no idea about the financial implications of things like car parks nor do I pretend to.
My argument is, the cars are there for 1 thing, the airport. If you start taking more and more away from the reason the cars are there, then surely there comes a point when the number of cars stagnates.
Now, the number of stands at MAN for the typical day operation are not an issue. Its in, between 25 mins and 5 hours on the ground, then out again for the aircraft.
The issue comes at for the based airlines. Easyjet have made no secret MAN will continue to expand, Ryanair have added 1 more aircraft this year than they intended to, and if these aircraft remain for the W13/14 season, then they have to jostle for space with the likes of Thomson and Thomas cook who seemed to have a lot of aircraft on the ground at any 1 stage this winter, as well as the Jet2 static display team.
Where can MAN put these aircraft? Well, the answer is under 1000 cars on the apron it seems.
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But the Airport city is a totally different kettle of fish is has government money
and they are run as a totally separate entity , have you ever tried to get planning permission or change it, it is never easy or quick unless the council want it to happen. Airport City is far to important to change now and work is due to start in next couple of weeks on the infastructure. If any change was to be made now it would be at a large cost as all the contracts will be in place.
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and they are run as a totally separate entity , have you ever tried to get planning permission or change it, it is never easy or quick unless the council want it to happen. Airport City is far to important to change now and work is due to start in next couple of weeks on the infastructure. If any change was to be made now it would be at a large cost as all the contracts will be in place.
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Perhaps lol! By the way I do agree with most things you say but not on this occasion, but that is life and if everybody agreed about everything life would be very boring and we would not need any forums
Until the next time bon soir
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Until the next time bon soir
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The Airport used to have delegated powers where planning permission was not required for certain minor developments etc. Can't remember what the technical term is now and not sure whether it still applies? For example tenants wanting to put up signs had to get permission from the Airport Company, not the local planning authority.
I'm surprised that more stands are to be used for car parking, especially as LAX says, there have been many stands in use over the winter with aircraft parked up. And even when the aircraft are working in the summer, there are a lot of aircraft in overnight.
But we don't have all the information, so I'm sure there is logic to this. It's something where the apron can revert to it's proper use relatively quickly in a matter of a few weeks or months I expect.
Either they are expecting a higher demand for parking, or is it that some of the existing spaces are being lost, maybe due to the airport city construction starting? Anyone know?
I'm surprised that more stands are to be used for car parking, especially as LAX says, there have been many stands in use over the winter with aircraft parked up. And even when the aircraft are working in the summer, there are a lot of aircraft in overnight.
But we don't have all the information, so I'm sure there is logic to this. It's something where the apron can revert to it's proper use relatively quickly in a matter of a few weeks or months I expect.
Either they are expecting a higher demand for parking, or is it that some of the existing spaces are being lost, maybe due to the airport city construction starting? Anyone know?
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By the way I do agree with most things you say but not on this occasion
I think we can agree that a more permanent solution to the parking situation is needed, and from my angle, a MSCP is the best option as you can double, triple and more the size of your parking needs with the same footprint as just a surface car park.
Im not saying MAG is wrong to supply more car parking, they have obviously played with their abacus and it works out, but surely there are better places to use rather than aircraft stands.
Stands have been pretty much fully utilised this winter as it was, and now with an even busier summer approaching, they have just magnified the situation.
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In other news, yet another foreign charter operator to add to the ever growing list:
OBS3417 TFS 0615 MAN 1030
OBS3418 MAN 1335 TFS 1755
A320 every Sunday.
Quite an extensive list now.
OBS3417 TFS 0615 MAN 1030
OBS3418 MAN 1335 TFS 1755
A320 every Sunday.
Quite an extensive list now.