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DL : ATL, JFK, DTW, MSP (SEA?)
UA : ORD, IAD, EWR, IAH
AA : DFW, ORD, MIA, JFK, LAX
US : PHL, PHX, CLT
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UA : ORD, IAD, EWR, IAH
AA : DFW, ORD, MIA, JFK, LAX
US : PHL, PHX, CLT
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This argument is all very interesting, but isn't the real issue the extent of connecting opportunities that would exist for a MAN-LAX service? Given the geographical location of LA I struggle to get much beyond SAN and Hawaii. If you're heading for SFO/LAS/DEN/PHX etc it's better to connect through ORD (or JFK) surely.
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Rumours that MAN is one of 3 airports currently in the running for a new transit flight...
Its in the very early stages, and purely rumours at the moment, the carrier has served Manchester before, and is not Biman Bangladesh.
The other 2 airports also being studied also have a strong case, so will be a case of wait and see. The route may not even go ahead at all, they are merely in the planning stages to see if such a route would be viable (probably won't be, a similar route by them has failed before and Manchester didn't work for them last time).
Seems to be a new age of transit flights coming about, with Biman at BHX and Ethiopian at Dublin.
Its in the very early stages, and purely rumours at the moment, the carrier has served Manchester before, and is not Biman Bangladesh.
The other 2 airports also being studied also have a strong case, so will be a case of wait and see. The route may not even go ahead at all, they are merely in the planning stages to see if such a route would be viable (probably won't be, a similar route by them has failed before and Manchester didn't work for them last time).
Seems to be a new age of transit flights coming about, with Biman at BHX and Ethiopian at Dublin.
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You would think so however in the case of AA -West Coast links off of Chicago are pretty dire these days and from JFK well they will get you to LAX on one of our old 762s or now on a 321 on the hour plus SFO and occasional LAS - anywhere else and its Blue or two stop and change in LAX to a commuter.
This argument is all very interesting, but isn't the real issue the extent of connecting opportunities that would exist for a MAN-LAX service? Given the geographical location of LA I struggle to get much beyond SAN and Hawaii. If you're heading for SFO/LAS/DEN/PHX etc it's better to connect through ORD (or JFK) surely.
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"to see if such a route would be viable (probably won't be, a similar route by them has failed before and Manchester didn't work for them last time)".
Interesting LAX LHR
There can't be too many airlines that meet both criteria. I'm not aware that CX, or MH have tried transits before. Have GF?
One possibility I guess would be AI, who flew to the USA and Canada via LHR I recall. But wouldn't they use BHX as they already have a scheduled service?
Interesting LAX LHR
There can't be too many airlines that meet both criteria. I'm not aware that CX, or MH have tried transits before. Have GF?
One possibility I guess would be AI, who flew to the USA and Canada via LHR I recall. But wouldn't they use BHX as they already have a scheduled service?
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There can't be too many airlines that meet both criteria. I'm not aware that
CX, or MH have tried transits before. Have GF?
CX, or MH have tried transits before. Have GF?
They are currently undertaking a feasibility study for a KUL-JFK route via either MAN, ARN or BRU.
They have served MAN before, and they also ran a KUL-ARN-EWR flight.
Like I say, very early stages, and there's probably more chance of the route not happening as opposed to happening, but, thought I would share none the less in the absence of any new solid route news after the last Ryanair announcement.
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Someone from the trans Caucuses ?
With a delightful Blue, Green and Yellow livery perhaps?
Have done JFK via Birmingham and somewhere up on the Baltic
Had a sporadic MAN-TAS service some moons ago even used one of those mock VC!0s
Could it be ?
MAS used to transit Stockholm on the way to NewYork as well and right now they just canned their West Coast US services so those are my candidates
With a delightful Blue, Green and Yellow livery perhaps?
Have done JFK via Birmingham and somewhere up on the Baltic
Had a sporadic MAN-TAS service some moons ago even used one of those mock VC!0s
Could it be ?
MAS used to transit Stockholm on the way to NewYork as well and right now they just canned their West Coast US services so those are my candidates
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If you're being serious then you should really change your username or at
least visit LAX to see the difference
least visit LAX to see the difference
This is my last post on this subject, as it is off topic, but, I have visited LAX many, many times. Im certainly no stranger to TBIT and even more off topic, but the new terminal is a huge improvement on old and now a pleasure to travel through.
The fact is, whether you like to admit it or not, LAX is a hub. It has connections, engineering hangar, the employees, hub waves, multiple flights etc etc etc.
Its referred to as a hub, looks like a hub, works like a hub......
The simple analogy works here. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and swims like a duck, its probably a duck.......
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Still find it a bit strange that they are pulling out of the US market citing a re-focus on Asia but at the same time studying JFK. On the other hand now they are in oneworld JFK could be a better option for them.
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as it is off topic, but, I have visited LAX many, many times. Im certainly no stranger to TBIT and even more off topic, but the new terminal is a huge improvement on old and now a pleasure to travel through.
The fact is, whether you like to admit it or not, LAX is a hub.
The fact is, whether you like to admit it or not, LAX is a hub.
This is the very constrained area I was referring to. I don't agree that it's a hub for American Airlines, I really don't. Big focus city, lots of O&D and some Eagle but little long haul. A B777 is a big event at T4.
As to Malaysia, well where to start? The B772s are on the way out and the B744s are gone, so are we talking an A380? They got their backsides kicked by the ME3 last time and they left with their tail between their legs. I wouldn't put it past them trying mind. They're a car crash commercially speaking.
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Its a very fluid situation at the moment, hence why I have said that the chances of the route happening are slim.
Normally with such a small rumour I wouldn't have bothered posting, I hear several a week from various sources that can be brushed aside straight away, however I wanted to create a talking point with this one as they are an Airline that is no stranger to Manchester, and I suppose given the lure of JFK to some carriers, could happen.
Normally with such a small rumour I wouldn't have bothered posting, I hear several a week from various sources that can be brushed aside straight away, however I wanted to create a talking point with this one as they are an Airline that is no stranger to Manchester, and I suppose given the lure of JFK to some carriers, could happen.
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Just found this on MAN Airport City twitter page:
@AirportCityUK is a fantastic location for @dhlexpressuk with new dedicated 767 cargo flight #insidernwlogistics
Any further information? DHL has been rumoured for a while now.
@AirportCityUK is a fantastic location for @dhlexpressuk with new dedicated 767 cargo flight #insidernwlogistics
Any further information? DHL has been rumoured for a while now.
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A hub is surely the central component of a hub and spoke network where a large proportion of traffic takes advantages of waves of connections. A large % of passengers will transit hub C on the way from A to B.
DL : ATL, JFK, DTW, MSP (SEA?)
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AA : DFW, ORD, MIA, JFK
US : PHL, PHX, CLT
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UA : ORD, IAD, EWR, IAH
AA : DFW, ORD, MIA, JFK
US : PHL, PHX, CLT
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Not sure what others think but if there was an Open University exam on ;
"US Hubs - Conceptual Thinking"
...I think I would be tempted to sign up, given the bandwidth on "the Manchester" thread in last few days.
Very informative as ever but could we maybe move back "on piste" so to speak ?
For students perhaps interested in other issues, namely 5th Freedom rights Ex MAN, this is the most comprehensive doc I could find to date on the subject BUT there appears to be one circa 2010 ?
This is the copy the CAA drafted back in the day ......
Interesting that Manchester featured so much !
An Economic Assessment of the Impacts of Granting Fifth-Freedom Rights to Passenger Services from UK Regional Airports | Regulatory Policy | About the CAA
Does anybody have a link to latest methodology Or applications ?
On 17th October 2005, Government utterences suggested;
In future there will be a general presumption in favour of allowing such services, for both passenger and cargo services.
BUT more recently an observation by Manchester Airport.
....UK airlines do not want to serve the regions internationally on a point to point basis, but do not want their overseas competitors to do so either. This has been to the detriment of UK connectivity.
Source ; Aviation Strategy (10th January 2013)
It does tend to cut down dead those protagonists who persist in suggesting any airline can fly from any regional airport !
Clearly they cannot !
Touche as they say !
PS I hope the responses on this (assuming there are any) are as impassioned as the US hub debate !
"US Hubs - Conceptual Thinking"
...I think I would be tempted to sign up, given the bandwidth on "the Manchester" thread in last few days.
Very informative as ever but could we maybe move back "on piste" so to speak ?
For students perhaps interested in other issues, namely 5th Freedom rights Ex MAN, this is the most comprehensive doc I could find to date on the subject BUT there appears to be one circa 2010 ?
This is the copy the CAA drafted back in the day ......
Interesting that Manchester featured so much !
An Economic Assessment of the Impacts of Granting Fifth-Freedom Rights to Passenger Services from UK Regional Airports | Regulatory Policy | About the CAA
Does anybody have a link to latest methodology Or applications ?
On 17th October 2005, Government utterences suggested;
In future there will be a general presumption in favour of allowing such services, for both passenger and cargo services.
BUT more recently an observation by Manchester Airport.
....UK airlines do not want to serve the regions internationally on a point to point basis, but do not want their overseas competitors to do so either. This has been to the detriment of UK connectivity.
Source ; Aviation Strategy (10th January 2013)
It does tend to cut down dead those protagonists who persist in suggesting any airline can fly from any regional airport !
Clearly they cannot !
Touche as they say !
PS I hope the responses on this (assuming there are any) are as impassioned as the US hub debate !
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New Virgin route?? VS93 just departed MAN for Cancun. G-VLIP B744
Flightstats has it listed too?
(VS) Virgin Atlantic Airways 93 Flight Status
Flightstats has it listed too?
(VS) Virgin Atlantic Airways 93 Flight Status
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New Virgin route?? VS93 just departed MAN for Cancun. G-VLIP B744
Flightstats has it listed too?
(VS) Virgin Atlantic Airways 93 Flight Status
Flightstats has it listed too?
(VS) Virgin Atlantic Airways 93 Flight Status