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The word anal you used in a comment on 23rd July 2011 mickyman - that's all.
It looks like the best in class label for Emirates at MAN is fading a bit. Emirates has still free seats. EK17/18 has been in the low 300 at times as well as filled to the rim in September. Lucky for Emirates, seats "in front" are filled and only the Ys "in the back" are missing. In other words MAN is missing Y passengers - dare I say the word reccession? The average distance flown for flights at MAN have gone down, and traffic wise (number of passengers x flown distance) MAN has practically been at a stand still this summer. The three big gainers at MAN in August were Spain (+82,649 passenger), Italy (+37,248 passengers) and Germany (+23,055). The three big loosers the same month were Cyprus (-26,509 passengers), Greece (-15,966 passengers) and United States of America (-15,837 passengers). In a different forum I quote the title of a novel written by Peter Robinson, and looks like I need to do this here too - and the novel was named: "The Summer That Never Was".
It looks like the best in class label for Emirates at MAN is fading a bit. Emirates has still free seats. EK17/18 has been in the low 300 at times as well as filled to the rim in September. Lucky for Emirates, seats "in front" are filled and only the Ys "in the back" are missing. In other words MAN is missing Y passengers - dare I say the word reccession? The average distance flown for flights at MAN have gone down, and traffic wise (number of passengers x flown distance) MAN has practically been at a stand still this summer. The three big gainers at MAN in August were Spain (+82,649 passenger), Italy (+37,248 passengers) and Germany (+23,055). The three big loosers the same month were Cyprus (-26,509 passengers), Greece (-15,966 passengers) and United States of America (-15,837 passengers). In a different forum I quote the title of a novel written by Peter Robinson, and looks like I need to do this here too - and the novel was named: "The Summer That Never Was".
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147 free seats in and 32 free seats out to be exact.
There hasn't been a huge change for the APD since last year. For a flight to US it was last year £60 and this year £65 in Y.
There hasn't been a huge change for the APD since last year. For a flight to US it was last year £60 and this year £65 in Y.

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he best in class label for Emirates at MAN is fading a bit.

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I've look at the departure times from DXB the last month and to me only five flights pops up with an up to one hour delay - 2x EK (13 Oct and 30 Sep), 1x EK19 (28 Sep) and 2x EK21 (20 Sep and 16 Sep). Times used came from data.flight24.com.

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LN-KGL maybe not but the airlines like TCX and MON are pulling virtually
out of long haul leaving Thomson who have also less long haul aircraft
which has taken 2 years to filter down
out of long haul leaving Thomson who have also less long haul aircraft
which has taken 2 years to filter down

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LN-KGL maybe not but the airlines like TCX and MON are pulling virtually
out of long haul leaving Thomson who have also less long haul aircraft
which has taken 2 years to filter down
out of long haul leaving Thomson who have also less long haul aircraft
which has taken 2 years to filter down

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Traffic Stats
Sept provisional CAA Stats
ATMs 15275 -0.2%
Terminal Passengers 2083472 +2.4%
Rolling 12 months
ATMs 160418 +2.3%
Terminal Passengers 19409647 +4.2%
Steady progress being made
Full set of UK Airports info here
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...Statistics.pdf
ATMs 15275 -0.2%
Terminal Passengers 2083472 +2.4%
Rolling 12 months
ATMs 160418 +2.3%
Terminal Passengers 19409647 +4.2%
Steady progress being made

Full set of UK Airports info here
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...Statistics.pdf
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With the provisional September report released, here are an updated graph I did show you in #111:

The below average growth for Emirates at MAN continued in September with 2.9 percentage points lower growth than the average for scheduled international flights.
The top five gaining countries in September were:
1 Italy = +32,804 passengers
2 Germany = +20,764 passengers
3 France = + 11,327 passengers
4 United Arab Emirates = +8,635 passengers
5 Norway = +7,938 passengers
The top country in August, Spain, is down at the 12th place in September.
If we look at the loosers, three of them are the Eastern Mediterranean countries Turkey, Greece and Cyprus. These three together with Sitzerland and Sweden form the five loosers in September.

The below average growth for Emirates at MAN continued in September with 2.9 percentage points lower growth than the average for scheduled international flights.
The top five gaining countries in September were:
1 Italy = +32,804 passengers
2 Germany = +20,764 passengers
3 France = + 11,327 passengers
4 United Arab Emirates = +8,635 passengers
5 Norway = +7,938 passengers
The top country in August, Spain, is down at the 12th place in September.
If we look at the loosers, three of them are the Eastern Mediterranean countries Turkey, Greece and Cyprus. These three together with Sitzerland and Sweden form the five loosers in September.

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LN-KGL
If yield info was available then I am sure your negative bent towards
Emirates at Manchester would be put into context.
Do you have comparisons with all Emirates stations in the UK that you could share ?
Perhaps a graph showing the numbers on all flights in the UK
from the various airports for the last 17or12 month period? followed by the available seats per station?
I would be obliged if you could - thanks
MM
If yield info was available then I am sure your negative bent towards
Emirates at Manchester would be put into context.
Do you have comparisons with all Emirates stations in the UK that you could share ?
Perhaps a graph showing the numbers on all flights in the UK
from the various airports for the last 17or12 month period? followed by the available seats per station?
I would be obliged if you could - thanks
MM

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It must be taken into account that EK have moved to a three class configuration on all MAN services which may reduce the overall seat capacity and in response to growing demand for F and C seats in this market. This was a major driver in the decision to deploy the A380 two years ago.
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Reguler flyer on EK for a long number of years and have to say the planes I have travelled on have always been full in Business over this last few months indeed the questuion asked by one fellow passenger at the bar was what recession ?, as First and Business were all full
. I have even had to put in stops in DXB hotels as could not get on flight making decent connections due to flight being full !. I do know that the early morning flight is not so busy as a rule - yet. Also bare in mind cargo that can be shifted on a lightly loaded a/c helps cover costs. Do not think EK will lose much sleep over keyboard strategists on this site talking about Man load factors in my experiance.


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The EXS809 MAN-AGP operated by Boeing 737-300, G-CELJ this afternoon has landed safely on LBA's runway 14. The pilot is quoted on another site as complaining of engine vibrations to ATC.
Hence the reason i guess to divert to LBA is for engineering purposes?
Hence the reason i guess to divert to LBA is for engineering purposes?
