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Old 15th May 2017, 16:06
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The impact of Brexit on Wizz will be most interesting to observe. We know that EU nationals living here already will have the right to continue to do so, and there's no obvious reason why Brexit will have any substantial effect on their marginal propensity to fly. So I wonder whether we will merely see a plateau in the growth of Wizz's UK ops, rather than a more notable diminution.
We don't know for certain whether or not those here will be allowed to stay as our illustrious leader can't or won't give them that assurance, but like you, I believe the reality is that they will. There may well over time be a "Canada" effect, where relatives die, and the urge to "go home to see the folks" diminishes.

Personally, I think that migrant workers will continue to come to the area to do the jobs they do now, in similar numbers, as in the real world British people simply don't want to do the work on offer, and would rather sit on their backsides whinging that they can't get jobs than take those that are available.

If the government were to really tighten up on migrant workers, and force those "can't work / won't work" in the population to work, then Wizz could suffer, as they may from increased automation in agriculture and horticulture
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We don't know for certain whether or not those here will be allowed to stay as our illustrious leader can't or won't give them that assurance, but like you, I believe the reality is that they will. There may well over time be a "Canada" effect, where relatives die, and the urge to "go home to see the folks" diminishes.

Personally, I think that migrant workers will continue to come to the area to do the jobs they do now, in similar numbers, as in the real world British people simply don't want to do the work on offer, and would rather sit on their backsides whinging that they can't get jobs than take those that are available.

If the government were to really tighten up on migrant workers, and force those "can't work / won't work" in the population to work, then Wizz could suffer, as they may from increased automation in agriculture and horticulture
Living in Lincolnshire I am astounded by my neighbours complaining about 'all' the immigrants, and in the next breath winging about the cost of locally grown veg. When I point out that the cost of veg will go through the roof if the immigrant labour has to return to Poland/Rumania due to the Brexit vote, there is a look of total unawareness in their eyes. I despair!
Sorry - thread drift.
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Which leaves Thomson, who keep plugging away.
Will be interesting to see if after Brexit there will be more holidaying in Euroland or less and thus more or less leisure oriented air services to the EU. At the moment, I would put my money on less with the pound not buying as many Euros as before the Brexit vote.
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Will be interesting to see if after Brexit there will be more holidaying in Euroland or less and thus more or less leisure oriented air services to the EU. At the moment, I would put my money on less with the pound not buying as many Euros as before the Brexit vote.
...really?? somebody needs to tel Jet2 before they add all that additional Euro capacity at BHX
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I was not talking about tomorrow, but about the long term perspectives. Of course they will try to make the best of it. Question is whether they will make as much money as before and feel it is worth the effort.
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In the EU or not, Brits will still want their holiday in the sun. I can't see travel to Spain or Portugal declining, realistically how much more is it going to cost really? Currencies fluctuate all the time.
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People will still want holidays in the sun, they may just cut back on those city breaks..
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Weekly Nairobi perishable goods freighter service to start.

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Second phase of Great Yorkshire Way link road to the airport underway

June 23, 2017




The second phase of Great Yorkshire Way which will complete the direct link from the motorway network to Doncaster Sheffield Airport has started.
Representatives from the public and private sector partners who have delivered Great Yorkshire Way celebrated by ‘breaking the ground’ on this new section this week.
Coordinated by Doncaster Council and funded by the Sheffield City Region Investment Fund (SCRIF), the second stage of this key regeneration route will create a one mile connection from Bawtry Road to Hurst Lane.
This will see Great Yorkshire Way become one quick and easy access road straight to Yorkshire’s Doncaster Sheffield Airport, further reducing journey times to the airport and accelerating development in south east Doncaster.
The new section will also provide additional cycle and pedestrian facilities and link new residential areas and the development area surrounding the airport to existing facilities and the town centre.
Cllr Bill Mordue, Cabinet Member for Business, Skills and Economic Development, said: “Great Yorkshire Way has been a true partnership between the public and private sectors and a real success story.
“We always knew Great Yorkshire Way would be the catalyst for substantial economic growth and the evidence is clear to see. Doncaster Sheffield Airport continues to hit new highs in terms of passenger numbers, growth at iPort has been staggering with further large scale development in the pipeline and people are enjoying living in high quality homes which enjoy great access to the motorway network.
“The second phase is the final piece of the economic jigsaw which will help stimulate further jobs and create substantial additional economic benefits and growth for Doncaster and the Sheffield City Region. Great Yorkshire Way is quite simply one of the biggest regeneration schemes of its kind in the UK.
“With the successful Yorkshire Wildlife Park planning a huge expansion and a European Tour backed golf complex lined up close by too – this is an exciting time for development in Doncaster.”
Chris Scholey, Sheffield City Region Local Enterprise Partnership Board Member, said: “I’m delighted to see this important link get underway – it will transform the region even further. The way to get things done is through the Sheffield City Region. In a decade, we have built innumerable business partnerships, smoothed alliances between the public and private sectors, and created highly-efficient regulatory systems – we make it really easy to get things done here.”
Steve Gill, chief executive of Doncaster Sheffield Airport, said: “The Airport has just experienced its busiest year on record. Great Yorkshire Way is already attracting new passengers from across Yorkshire and the North Midlands as they benefit from reduced journey times and recognise the superb customer experience that we offer. Our passengers are enjoying the increased choice available with new and existing carriers, most notably the introduction of low fares carrier Flybe which recently celebrated one year of operation and is proving particularly popular. This final piece of the jigsaw will mean that journeys to the airport are even quicker and easier.”

Caroline Flint, MP for Don Valley, said: “This is so much more than just one mile of additional tarmac. The final leg ensures travellers sweep from the M18 to the airport car park in minutes, making Doncaster Sheffield Airport one of the most accessible airports in the UK. With its central location - over 6million people within a 60 minutes journey - it is no wonder we have the fastest growing airport in the UK. And with iPort growing at an incredible rate, Great Yorkshire Way illustrates why Doncaster is one of the best places to invest. We have a 21st century inland port and logistics hub taking shape on our doorstep.”
Iain Thomson, Harworth Group’s Associate Director, Partnerships & Communications, said: “Investing in infrastructure to improve access to key assets is the best way of securing economic growth. Doncaster Council has once again taken a leading role in making this happen through managing the entire Phase 2 process and we’re confident it’ll lead to more jobs and an acceleration of housebuilding.”
Andy Brown, Operations Director for Carillion Civil Engineering, said: "Carillion is delighted to be involved in the continuation of the Great Yorkshire Way. The strength of the relationships forged during the preparation and construction of the first phase will, no doubt, form the basis of a successful outcome for Phase 2. We now look forward to engaging with stakeholders and in particular the local community. Our work on Phase 1 created jobs for apprentices and graduates and made a real contribution to the local economy and we will work hard to build on that success."
Dan Fell, Chief Executive Officer at Doncaster Chamber, said: “It is great news that the second phase of construction on the Great Yorkshire Way is getting underway. This news will boost local business confidence and further enhance Doncaster’s reputation for outstanding connectivity. The Chamber has worked closely with partners for a number of years to make the case for this scheme; this is because Doncaster Sheffield Airport remains a unique and important regional asset, but also because this critical access road will enable further inward investment into the region whilst also facilitating growth at other anchor businesses such as the Yorkshire Wildlife Park.”
John Clements, European Development Director at Verdion, said: “It is a logical and necessary upgrade to better connect the airport to the surrounding region which should bring further economic benefits to the area.”
Nigel Morley, Project Manager for Mott MacDonald, said: “We are extremely proud to have supported Doncaster Council and its partners throughout this project. The opening of Great Yorkshire Way was a great testament to the collaborative effort of the whole team and its success in overcoming several significant challenges along the way. The strength of that teamwork has carried through into the second phase and we are very excited to see all the hard work and commitment come to fruition.”
The main section of Great Yorkshire Way – a three mile link from junction three of the M18 to the A638 Bawtry Road – opened on 29 February 2016 and has already had a major economic impact.
Doncaster Sheffield Airport continues to enjoy record-breaking success with over 1.3million passengers flying to destinations across Europe and beyond in the last 12 months. Great Yorkshire Way has helped by bringing an extra one million potential passengers to within a 60 minute drive of the airport.
Verdion’s £500million iPort has seen 2.34million sq. ft. of high quality space taken by Amazon, Ceva, Fellowes and Lidl. Work is now starting on an additional 3million sq. ft. of space at its rail freight interchange and logistics park. This includes a second facility for Amazon which will employ 1,500 people.
New homes are going up on Harworth Group’s former Rossington Colliery site. Harron Homes and Taylor Wimpey have welcomed people into 60 new homes. A further 100 properties will be built in the next 18 months with another 1,040 homes planned in later phases.
This impact on the local and regional economy has seen Great Yorkshire Way land a string of prestigious awards. The latest being the Award for Promoting Economic Growth at the 2017 Planning Awards.
The second phase of Great Yorkshire Way will cost approximately £10.55million with £9.1million contributed by SCRIF and the balance coming from Doncaster Council’s Capital Programme. Carillion have been appointed as the main contractor for the scheme designed by Mott MacDonald and the council’s Strategic Infrastructure team. Tarmac is Carillion’s joint venture partner on the project.
Great Yorkshire Way is a central part of the Sheffield City Region Growth Plan which aims to stimulate economic growth and create 70,000 jobs over the next 10 years.

wonder how much driving time this will save. 3-4 mins?



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Old 6th Jul 2017, 10:58
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Bid to connect airport to East Coast Mainline - Yorkshire Post
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Sounds like a nice wish list, but so far no opinions from those most closely involved ie the train operating companies. Their job is to get people to and from London as fast as possible. Can't see them being enthusiastic about another halt when they have a stop already ,just down the road. After all the TOC"s see airlines as their competitors
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Old 6th Jul 2017, 11:29
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It will never happen.
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Old 6th Jul 2017, 20:27
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
It will never happen.
We agree!

The X4 bus from Donny Interchange is half-hourly, takes 22 minutes and is rarely very busy.

Most other people park at the airport, relatively cheap I believe; or get a private hire/taxi; or like in my case get a mate to drop me off.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 08:41
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The Park and Ride near Rossington is now open 24 hours and the X4 bus serves it. That should be a good alternative for people wanting to use public transport and save on parking costs, because it is free, and only 5 minutes on the shuttle bus to the airport.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 10:33
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Fair play to the marketing people at DSA, they keep grabbing the headlines. I agree that this will never happen, as a shuttle bus would still be required. There's already an ECML station a few miles away (Doncaster) with a regular 20-minute shuttle. That station is not only served by the ECML but other trains such as Trans Pennine Express and Cross Country.


Given the expansion of the nearby wildlife park and business district, a bus to Sheffield calling at these places could be the next step forward - allowing better access not only to the people of Sheffield, but also MML users coming from eg Chesterfield.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 12:13
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
The Park and Ride near Rossington is now open 24 hours and the X4 bus serves it. That should be a good alternative for people wanting to use public transport and save on parking costs, because it is free, and only 5 minutes on the shuttle bus to the airport.
It does in fact now market itself as a Park and Fly option... They say that it's open 24 hours... I'll pay attention, but I'm pretty sure that they close the gates at night... If they don't then that's recent.


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Fair play to the marketing people at DSA, they keep grabbing the headlines. I agree that this will never happen, as a shuttle bus would still be required. There's already an ECML station a few miles away (Doncaster) with a regular 20-minute shuttle. That station is not only served by the ECML but other trains such as Trans Pennine Express and Cross Country.


Given the expansion of the nearby wildlife park and business district, a bus to Sheffield calling at these places could be the next step forward - allowing better access not only to the people of Sheffield, but also MML users coming from eg Chesterfield.
To my mind they could extend the Leeds slow train to terminate at a new Robin Hood Branch.. Would be a good way of connecting..
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 12:59
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RAF used to have a station built for some of the air shows.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 14:03
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
RAF used to have a station built for some of the air shows.
They didn't build one, so much as re-open the closed station at Finningley, which isn't on the ECML. It's on the Doncaster - Lincoln branch, which runs past the north of the airport. It sees less than half a dozen services a day.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 17:42
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Did they build a footbridge then? Can remember something made from scaffolding tubes.
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Old 7th Jul 2017, 20:23
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Can confirm it was a temporary scaffolding platform for the air show. I was involved in its construction on land opposite the then officers accommodation. Just before the road/railway crossing.
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