SOUTHEND - 3 The new beginning
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Wel done to PAIN IN THE RS/GIRT BIG UN,you have succeded in losing one of the few people with any knowledge on this web site,a lot of people look forward to reading his coments...(expressflight lookin forward to your return)
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Mikkie: I simply asked Expressflight whether Join could be classed as as credible safe and financially secure operator. It may have been taken as a statement by Expressflight but I assure you that it was not.
Expressflight: I was simply repeating or para phrasing what was in the Sothend Echo re "Join acts as an unbrella organisation for a umber of Regional Airlines". If you know this to be different then so be it. Dont throw your teddy bears out so easily as I know your are as much of a SEN supporter as I am.
To the poster with a San Miguel in hand, boy haveI invested some money, time and effort into SEN over the past twenty eight years and I can passionatly about the airport.
Expressflight: I was simply repeating or para phrasing what was in the Sothend Echo re "Join acts as an unbrella organisation for a umber of Regional Airlines". If you know this to be different then so be it. Dont throw your teddy bears out so easily as I know your are as much of a SEN supporter as I am.
To the poster with a San Miguel in hand, boy haveI invested some money, time and effort into SEN over the past twenty eight years and I can passionatly about the airport.
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Apologies if someone has asked this question already, but is OLT Express planning on operating the German routes as a permanent scheduled service from the Summer 2013 schedule? Or are the planning to carry on this seasonal 'service', if at all?
s2art1e - Funny you should ask this, I was wondering the same thing as well. I've set up a thread for OLT Express so as to avoid clogging up the Southend thread with OLT specific posts
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...s-germany.html
http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...s-germany.html
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I join with those who look forward to the submissions from Expressflight and consider him to be a very valued contributor to this forum. I believe that he is one of those who, like me, have always been able to see the potential of Southend Airport, but have felt incredible frustration at the apathy and, indeed antipathy, that emanated from Southend Council towards their own airport for literally decades. It is my belief that had it not been for the arrival of Stobart on the scene at a crucial time, then the story of our much loved airport could be a very different tale to what it is today. I believe that those of us who have supported it over all the difficult years can be forgiven for being excited at what has been only a dream until now. It is very difficult to understand why a few who contribute to this group often seem antagonistic and take a negative view of events and have started to make unnecessary comments towards others. It may be that on occasions it is not the intention to offend and that there has not been malice of forethought, but at other times there appears to be a very'un-English' attitude in the comments made. Most of us would not know each other if we passed in the street but, surely what we all have, or should have in common, is the wish to see civil aviation in this country flourish whether it be for commercial, or private and pleasure purposes and a forum such as this is just the place to enjoy and promote it. In conclusion, let’s stop what seems to be a sort of absurd infighting and bury any animosity that may exist.
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Good post Lord Gumboil Jnr.
Expressflight to me is genuine...He does post parts of info he has been given in confidence, and as such can't source his info.
That makes his decision to impart that info even more courageous, as he leaves himself open to attacks from people who don't have a clue if he is wrong on not.
I like him and I believe what he posts is sincere, and this is my last post on this subject.
Expressflight to me is genuine...He does post parts of info he has been given in confidence, and as such can't source his info.
That makes his decision to impart that info even more courageous, as he leaves himself open to attacks from people who don't have a clue if he is wrong on not.
I like him and I believe what he posts is sincere, and this is my last post on this subject.
I don't wish to be a party pooper but this expression of affection for one particular member or another is getting a bit cringeworthy. If you want to have a group hug or sing kumbaya could you do it elsewhere please ?
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
If you want to have a group hug or sing kumbaya could you do it elsewhere
please ?
Originally Posted by Ernest Lanc's
and this is my last post on this subject.
Last edited by Ernest Lanc's; 29th Nov 2012 at 15:46.
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davidjohnson6 –your posting is precisely the so unnecessary and childish piffle that has been appearing on this forum for far too long. I am inclined to ask why on earth you found it necessary to respond thus, but I am not going to as I have no inclination to sour matters further. Everything nowadays seems to be going downhill, it is very sad that this forum is following the national trend. I rest my case!
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Tut, tut, tut....
Lord Gumboil and Ernest Lanc's
Really, too much piffle going on here. If you consider davidjohnson6's comment inappropriate (I didn't - I though it was spot on), then why follow up with your own highly inappropriate comments? It is a forum to discuss what is going on at SEN.
Some will want to champion SEN, some will be hoping SEN works but can see the holes and some will be hoping SEN doesn't work. All comments are valid.
I remember making supportive comments of another poster regarding the lack of facilities for the biz jet market at SEN on another forum on PPRUNE. I got told I was talking b*ll*cks by some of the pro-SEN posters here. Truth is the "£1m brand new FBO" (Johnny Rayners comments in AIN - not mine) is locked and the lights are out right now. Landmark went back to their profitable airports and left SEN and their lack of expertise in attracting all types of aviation business to get on with it. Net result? What I and others posted about 6 months ago is now proven. Yet at the time I was branded anti-SEN, told to go and post elsewhere, etc, etc...
We should be able to post our views based upon our experience and knowledge and most importantly, we should be posting the untold stories -the rumours and the hearsay - it is after all a Rumour Network. Telling each other off for being on the opposite side of the fence is pointless.
Really, too much piffle going on here. If you consider davidjohnson6's comment inappropriate (I didn't - I though it was spot on), then why follow up with your own highly inappropriate comments? It is a forum to discuss what is going on at SEN.
Some will want to champion SEN, some will be hoping SEN works but can see the holes and some will be hoping SEN doesn't work. All comments are valid.
I remember making supportive comments of another poster regarding the lack of facilities for the biz jet market at SEN on another forum on PPRUNE. I got told I was talking b*ll*cks by some of the pro-SEN posters here. Truth is the "£1m brand new FBO" (Johnny Rayners comments in AIN - not mine) is locked and the lights are out right now. Landmark went back to their profitable airports and left SEN and their lack of expertise in attracting all types of aviation business to get on with it. Net result? What I and others posted about 6 months ago is now proven. Yet at the time I was branded anti-SEN, told to go and post elsewhere, etc, etc...
We should be able to post our views based upon our experience and knowledge and most importantly, we should be posting the untold stories -the rumours and the hearsay - it is after all a Rumour Network. Telling each other off for being on the opposite side of the fence is pointless.
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Originally Posted by asdf1234
Some will want to champion SEN, some will be hoping SEN works but can see the
holes and some will be hoping SEN doesn't work. All comments are valid.
It is not valid for people to come on here who hope that "SEN wont work" and post in such a way. - There is a name for such posters, and that is WUMS.
Anymore posts aimed at me will be ignored, and answering just makes matters worse - For the sake of the thread, lets draw a line here.
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We have been pondering what is to be done about this thread since no-one seems capable of maintaining a semblance of resonable discussion while others at least try. It would seem that whatever is said someone comes along and shoots it down simply becuae they want to. That is frankly not good enough or is it the way of PPRuNe.
This is what is going to happen so that I at least don't have to field complaints of disorder that includes back biting, snide, abuse and simple rubbish.
The thread gets closed permanently until we think that it might be possible to hold genuine discussion and simple debate. At the moment it is clear that its highly improbable.
Don't attempt to start a new thread because it will get short shrift and so will the starter.
Think about it please.
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This is what is going to happen so that I at least don't have to field complaints of disorder that includes back biting, snide, abuse and simple rubbish.
The thread gets closed permanently until we think that it might be possible to hold genuine discussion and simple debate. At the moment it is clear that its highly improbable.
Don't attempt to start a new thread because it will get short shrift and so will the starter.
Think about it please.
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OK! This is where we are at. I am going to let another thread be started under SOUTHEND - 4. But there has to be a stop applied to abuse, snide and other forms of ridiculous comments and information that is not borne out by fact. Trolls, the worst kind of attention seekers, are NOT welcome anywhere of PPRuNe and we will deal with them the way we treat others who play their silly games here.
Please understand that we are anxious that you enjoy PPRuNe, its been around now for over 16 years and is here to be enjoyed. Banter is allowed but bitterness and attempts to run wild will not be tolerated.
Its simple to behave and root for SEN at the same time. A great deal has been put into it by Stobarts and I suspect they will do all they can to maximise their stay st SEN. You can particularly enjoy that - you'll not see too often in the coming years.
Have fun.
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Please understand that we are anxious that you enjoy PPRuNe, its been around now for over 16 years and is here to be enjoyed. Banter is allowed but bitterness and attempts to run wild will not be tolerated.
Its simple to behave and root for SEN at the same time. A great deal has been put into it by Stobarts and I suspect they will do all they can to maximise their stay st SEN. You can particularly enjoy that - you'll not see too often in the coming years.
Have fun.
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