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Hellas Airlines - January 2013
Just to put a rumour in the mix, Hellas Airlines, a start-up from Greece, plan to operate a London-Volos route from the middle of January 2013 using A320 equipment. Tickets on sale from 15th December with a return priced at 160 euros. They want to operate a 'same seat, same time, same day' fare policy. No clues as to what the London airport may be, but have read rumours about another airline possibly coming to SEN in early 2013 - is there a connection here? BUT with such a long route and A320 aircraft is it too far for SEN? Heres the link: Hellas Airlines - Hellas Airlines | Airline Tickets, Low Cost Flights. Also for a route map click on the greek version of the website homepage and scroll down on your left handside, then click the right tab above the greek route map for the European map 
Adults usually feel a need to teach their kids how to cross the road and avoid being hit by fast moving heavy vehicles.
Whenever I see an airline that wants to have a policy of "same price for every flight", a similiar feeling occurs when I think of the airline management. Would someone be kind enough to sit them down one quiet afternoon and explain the basic laws of economics please ?
Seeing people unconscious on the street and bleeding heavily really is not a pretty sight.
Whenever I see an airline that wants to have a policy of "same price for every flight", a similiar feeling occurs when I think of the airline management. Would someone be kind enough to sit them down one quiet afternoon and explain the basic laws of economics please ?
Seeing people unconscious on the street and bleeding heavily really is not a pretty sight.
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A route to a relatively unknown Greek port launching in January with only 1 month of lead in ticket sales...
Bet it doesn't even get off the ground.
Also their mock-up livery looks really professional
Bet it doesn't even get off the ground.
Also their mock-up livery looks really professional
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More to the point, the Hellas Airlines route looks too far for planning purposes for an A320 from SEN's runway, given that a low cost carrier would be looking to operate in a high density seating configuration, i.e. high ZFW.
The news of this carrier makes interesting reading, but unless someone has positive information to the contrary, I suggest it has no relevance to the SEN thread.
The news of this carrier makes interesting reading, but unless someone has positive information to the contrary, I suggest it has no relevance to the SEN thread.
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I think a few people here are now starting to get carried away. Yes Southend will reach 2 million passengers per year probably well before 2020 but it will be mainly through easyjet.
Then what is going to happen when the airport is full as 2,000,000 is not a big number. I guess there will not be so much then to talk about.
Then what is going to happen when the airport is full as 2,000,000 is not a big number. I guess there will not be so much then to talk about.
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I agree LTNman, its seems any mention of a London Airport on a website and its automatically SEN. 
But then again if people are talking about the Airport in those terms can only help raise the profile.
I also agree 2m is probably going to be achieved long before 2020, and mostly through EZY with others such as REA even perhaps OLT and TUI contributing a smaller no less important contribution.
Southend is always going to be limited by space, the terminal and Section106 movement restrictions will only allow for so much growth. At no point would/could Southend compete on passenger numbers with Luton, Stansted etc.
They can compete easily on the customer experience, which is already getting good reviews.
With Stobart providing the retail, accomodation and ground services on this scale, and in house, they are able to maximise the returns at the same time.
Pushing ahead with the extended terminal is desperately needed in order to keep and enhance the experience... That begins next month.
Routes/operators will come and go and i suspect passenger numbers may even nudge above 2m... Hopefully the corporate market may become better exploited with heavy mx continuing to play an important part at Southend.
They'll still be something to talk about for years to come... Though I suspect immediate media focus will be more on which of the larger 'London' Airports will get the extra tarmac...including Luton.
But then again if people are talking about the Airport in those terms can only help raise the profile.
I also agree 2m is probably going to be achieved long before 2020, and mostly through EZY with others such as REA even perhaps OLT and TUI contributing a smaller no less important contribution.
Southend is always going to be limited by space, the terminal and Section106 movement restrictions will only allow for so much growth. At no point would/could Southend compete on passenger numbers with Luton, Stansted etc.
They can compete easily on the customer experience, which is already getting good reviews.
With Stobart providing the retail, accomodation and ground services on this scale, and in house, they are able to maximise the returns at the same time.
Pushing ahead with the extended terminal is desperately needed in order to keep and enhance the experience... That begins next month.
Routes/operators will come and go and i suspect passenger numbers may even nudge above 2m... Hopefully the corporate market may become better exploited with heavy mx continuing to play an important part at Southend.
They'll still be something to talk about for years to come... Though I suspect immediate media focus will be more on which of the larger 'London' Airports will get the extra tarmac...including Luton.
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That is not why I posted it! 
This was a relavent post by my part. The only reason was because it mentioned London as a destination in January 2013 when there are strong rumours going around about an airline coming into SEN in early 2013! 
If there was no rumour about a new airline I wouldn't have made a fuss about it simple as. As this is a thread about the airport and its current and future possible airlines I thought it might be of interest to some.
This was a relavent post by my part. The only reason was because it mentioned London as a destination in January 2013 when there are strong rumours going around about an airline coming into SEN in early 2013! If there was no rumour about a new airline I wouldn't have made a fuss about it simple as. As this is a thread about the airport and its current and future possible airlines I thought it might be of interest to some.
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OK I will start a rumour based on nothing. I have heard a rumour that a new start up airline is looking to base itself at Southend flying to the Nordic countries. There is absolutely nothing in this rumour but if I didn’t make it clear that there is no truth in it there would be 10 posts about it by tomorrow.
Most rumours are just that and are often based on nothing.
Most rumours are just that and are often based on nothing.
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My guess work was based around Expressflight's post on the airhumberside forum. Thank you for clarifying that its not them
Also expecting an announcement from Join! Regional Airlines in the next few days if their email was truthful on there operations from Southend next year.
Also expecting an announcement from Join! Regional Airlines in the next few days if their email was truthful on there operations from Southend next year.
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LTNman
I'm disappointed that you haven't realised by now that I never post "rumours ..... based on nothing".
However, there is a certain unintended irony within your post.
I'm disappointed that you haven't realised by now that I never post "rumours ..... based on nothing".
However, there is a certain unintended irony within your post.
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Expressflight.
Don't let LTNman get to you (again). He is obviously a provocator, and I can always anticipate his postings and comments, to the extent that they are worthless. He should stick to news about his beloved LTN airport, and not write sarcastic and negative comments about the new SEN. I know he is free to his views but, for me, it's always a big yawn.
I always eagerly await your posting because I sense you are somebody in SEN who hears the latest news (and rumours).
I see nobody has responded with the daily pax loads on the OLTexpress flights. They seem to have settled down quite nicely and are usually on-time. Their operation from Saarbrucken is doing ok. Let's hope they will not be poached away from us next spring.
Don't let LTNman get to you (again). He is obviously a provocator, and I can always anticipate his postings and comments, to the extent that they are worthless. He should stick to news about his beloved LTN airport, and not write sarcastic and negative comments about the new SEN. I know he is free to his views but, for me, it's always a big yawn.
I always eagerly await your posting because I sense you are somebody in SEN who hears the latest news (and rumours).
I see nobody has responded with the daily pax loads on the OLTexpress flights. They seem to have settled down quite nicely and are usually on-time. Their operation from Saarbrucken is doing ok. Let's hope they will not be poached away from us next spring.
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Actually AMS is a destination on the old map, the new one no longer shows AMS as a destination from Southend. They're not that stupid and I suspect that the map will change a bit anyway.
And heres something to please LTNman - Hellas Airlines are flying from Luton - Volos next year!
And heres something to please LTNman - Hellas Airlines are flying from Luton - Volos next year!
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Interesting news for us a bit further up north about Hellas.
Don't be too downhearted as I suspect they chose LTN for geographical location and the catchment area- a lot of Greeks live further north.
Never really understood why Easy dropped Athens from LTN a few years back.
SEN will still continue to attract airlines and so it should,friend flew out earlier and said it a nice experience so may get to try one day.
Interesting news for us a bit further up north about Hellas.
Don't be too downhearted as I suspect they chose LTN for geographical location and the catchment area- a lot of Greeks live further north.
Never really understood why Easy dropped Athens from LTN a few years back.
SEN will still continue to attract airlines and so it should,friend flew out earlier and said it a nice experience so may get to try one day.