BELFAST CITY AIRPORT (BHD)
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunny spain
Posts: 792
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If EI are coming to BHD surely the crew would know by know so plans would have been leaked to the press or on here now. Everyone on here is just guessing and suggesting
I do agree that the pieces do fit the puzzle especially if easy are about to launch 2 new routes
But really anything could happen
I do agree that the pieces do fit the puzzle especially if easy are about to launch 2 new routes
But really anything could happen
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Belfast
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
AIRPORT66
AerLingus has got there fingers burnt to many times with easyjet at Belfast why do they keep putting themselves through this knowing no matter what crap Ambrose is spinning them they are dommed to fail like all they rest
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Antrim
Posts: 1,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
In fairness though nothings been announced and if it is true mainly domestic could mean all their own LHR flights plus BD's amalgamated and operated in code share with BA, BHD being the stronger pax wise. European routes could just be most of the existing network switched from BFS to BHD. That really wouldnt be that revolutionary.
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Antrim
Posts: 1,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Whilst I dont think theres many people who would relish FR at BFS it really is suprising they have no representation in Belfast, they seem to have stuck loyally at Derry for years. Would it really be such a shock? Ryanair are just about everywhere else. I think though if they came they would focus on untapped routes like eastern europe and perhaps italy where they have based aircraft. Somehow I cant see them going for direct carnage, margins are too tight these days.
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,782
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well If EI maintain a 2 airbus base but move it to Belfast City Airport,and only operate LHR,as in my view there are no other domestic routes that EI would make the break on give a) the presence of Flybe and b) the size of the aircraft, airbus and c) Aer Lingus Regional would be grilled by BE so only LHR can offer a point of difference.
If we are to believe that continental EU routes are margin in Winter (except Canaries), perhaps they would just do summer only European routes.
I still feel confident that they wont go to BHD, and a LHR BHD a strong possible. However, if they do move LHR to BHD, chances are BFS will struggle to get a LHR route in the future again.
EI would be crazy in my view to give up on the BFS European routes after coming so far and investing so much....
EI-BUD
If we are to believe that continental EU routes are margin in Winter (except Canaries), perhaps they would just do summer only European routes.
I still feel confident that they wont go to BHD, and a LHR BHD a strong possible. However, if they do move LHR to BHD, chances are BFS will struggle to get a LHR route in the future again.
EI would be crazy in my view to give up on the BFS European routes after coming so far and investing so much....
EI-BUD
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Antrim
Posts: 1,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
What I think would swing it for EI would be a deal on landing charges. Also its not just bE they would be competing with on domestic uK its EZY and LS also. They're only real strong card to play on is their name and brand in the view of the Irish community being so strong.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: home
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wow guys - the imaginative minds on here would be better employed in Hollywood!
Clearly there has to be some broad consideration ongoing about how Belfast Heathrow services will be carved up in future - although there are still two distinct networks to feed at LHR, BA and 'the Rest'. So certainly still a case for covering the market and running services from both BHD and BFS.
As for EI using Aer Arann to go directly up against 30 odd years of flybe customer commitment and loyalty at BHD, with easyJet doing their thing now on all of the same routes in the same small fishing pond, and expecting that you wil succeed? Now that's barking....
Of course, as you say Mart, the one thing they can totally depend upon is the unwavering support in the East Belfast BHD heartland for the Aer Lingus shamrock brand!
Clearly there has to be some broad consideration ongoing about how Belfast Heathrow services will be carved up in future - although there are still two distinct networks to feed at LHR, BA and 'the Rest'. So certainly still a case for covering the market and running services from both BHD and BFS.
As for EI using Aer Arann to go directly up against 30 odd years of flybe customer commitment and loyalty at BHD, with easyJet doing their thing now on all of the same routes in the same small fishing pond, and expecting that you wil succeed? Now that's barking....
Of course, as you say Mart, the one thing they can totally depend upon is the unwavering support in the East Belfast BHD heartland for the Aer Lingus shamrock brand!
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Antrim
Posts: 1,601
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Elle
I think you will find there is vast recognition of the EI brand throughout all the emigrant communities across the UK and beyond. I think the world has moved on from those kind of sectarian comments.
I think you will find there is vast recognition of the EI brand throughout all the emigrant communities across the UK and beyond. I think the world has moved on from those kind of sectarian comments.
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Elle
I think you will find there is vast recognition of the EI brand throughout all the emigrant communities across the UK and beyond. I think the world has moved on from those kind of sectarian comments.
I think you will find there is vast recognition of the EI brand throughout all the emigrant communities across the UK and beyond. I think the world has moved on from those kind of sectarian comments.
And I feel sorry for anyone who still has such a backward mindset as to avoid flying with a particular airline just because they have a bloody shamrock on their aircraft. It's pathetic.
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: home
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Oh dear chaps - didn't mean to ruffle any feathers...
Nor, may I add, do I support or condone such a stance. Merely stating a simple local observation.
Don't fret. It might never happen!
Nor, may I add, do I support or condone such a stance. Merely stating a simple local observation.
Don't fret. It might never happen!
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by elle may clampit
Oh dear chaps - didn't mean to ruffle any feathers...
Nor, may I add, do I support or condone such a stance. Merely stating a simple local observation.
Nor, may I add, do I support or condone such a stance. Merely stating a simple local observation.
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: down
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I take it Airport 66 that you know Mr Ambrose then when you know what he is saying to these Airlines or maybe you are part or the talks process perhaps you would like to share this so called crap with us all
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Of course, as you say Mart, the one thing they can totally depend upon is the unwavering support in the East Belfast BHD heartland for the Aer Lingus shamrock brand!
I think the world has moved on from those kind of sectarian comments.
Think Aer Lingus would be a welcome boost to Belfast City. Very valid points though, they have managed to get burned a few times by easyJet and I think trying to do it again and also with Flybe would seem an unnecessary risk for the company. However marketing routes from the heart of Belfast to say Madrid, Milan, Rome for inward bound tourism would attract alot of pax. Should be interesting.
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Belfast
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
AIRPORT66
BFS is only 18 miles from belfast city they have tried these routes and failed what difference will they be from BHD one of the main things about BFS its centrally located in the northern ireland.
Join Date: May 2012
Location: belfast
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
a few days ago i was booking a Ryanair flight, and belfast city was showing in the airport drop down. A few hours after it was gone. I know they use to fly from here, but maybe they are coming back.
also the city arrivals are undergoing works creating a secure arrivals tunnel, security check point and seperate baggage carosal.
also the city arrivals are undergoing works creating a secure arrivals tunnel, security check point and seperate baggage carosal.
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sunny spain
Posts: 792
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Yes but the new arrivals was being built for baby so they can't really stop now. If they can't find a replacement they simply won't use but for now they have to make it water tight
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ireland
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
a few days ago i was booking a Ryanair flight, and belfast city was showing in the airport drop down. A few hours after it was gone. I know they use to fly from here, but maybe they are coming back.
also the city arrivals are undergoing works creating a secure arrivals tunnel, security check point and seperate baggage carosal.
also the city arrivals are undergoing works creating a secure arrivals tunnel, security check point and seperate baggage carosal.
As things stand, Ryanair can't fly full aircraft out of BHD and why waste resources at BHD when you can deploy aircraft to other airports around Europe that allow you to fly aircraft full and make more money.
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
EI to BHD?
While I hear it is certainly a possibility, I can't believe this would be a good idea for Lingus. I happen to know personally that they are very happy with their BFS base, it would be a major gamble to move the whole thing down the road.
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The other rumour is that another Irish airline is willing to step into two major euro hubs, plus a central London airport if BA drops LHR.
Certainly fits the picture of UK and Contiental European destinations.
Certainly fits the picture of UK and Contiental European destinations.