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Old 25th May 2015, 17:37
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I think they will build up slowly until they get at least 3 departures a day
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Old 26th May 2015, 21:16
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Impact of Aer Lingus takeover by IAG on BHD.

As part of the guarantees given to Irish Govt by IAG , it mentions a 5 year guarantee to EI services from LHR to the Island of Ireland ( excl DUB,ORK,SNN which are guaranteed for 7 yrs ).

Presume this means LHR/BHD .?

I assume there is nothing to prevent BA reducing their LHR/BHD , at least at OFFPEAK times of Day ,Week or Year ?
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Old 26th May 2015, 21:24
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There are absolutely no mention of services ex BHD, it says ex DUB ORK AND SNN - only republic of Ireland.







The issue will be are the Sun routes making good returns? Vueling could easily take these up and BA could fill the London rotations, or consolidate the overall capacity on LHR and make greater yield.. but I am hoping the future for EI at BHD is good...


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EI-BUD.

If you read the RTE website , in the article there is a sentence which says

" It added that other services from LHR to the Island of Ireland ,would be guaranteed for 5 years " .
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Old 26th May 2015, 21:41
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Good to know BCALBOY!
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Old 26th May 2015, 23:41
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From what I hear the plan is, BA increase frequency on LHR, and EI drop it
BA introduce LGW for connecting passengers, EI drop it
Vueling introduce new flights to Europe. Both city and leisure flights. EI drop Europe from Belfast

outcome? Excuse for leaving belfast is the fact they want to concentrate on Dublin and the costs incurred from having to go to court with BFS
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Old 27th May 2015, 00:37
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I am not Yoda

I have watched his situation and just decided I do not know what is going on.... but this is the most believable guess in my humble opinion...
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Old 27th May 2015, 06:24
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Sadly, that seems a feasible and likely outcome.

As usual, airline consolidation will negatively affect the average traveller as a result of reduced competition.
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Old 27th May 2015, 06:42
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What's saying BA wouldn't pull out of LHR-DUB, give EI a free run on that and EI removed from LHR-BHD. The slots guarantee nothing for BHD other than they will be used for services to the island of Ireland - that may be because they are not under the control of the Dublin government but either way it doesn't look like EI's future here is long term. Vueling could quite easily pick up the European routes and free up EI aircraft for more DUB routes. I would welcome more Vueling routes but removing flights/competition is never a positive in my opinion.
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Old 27th May 2015, 08:32
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I find it incredible that posters on this thread suggest to have information on what the plan for Aer Lingus at Belfast City is. The announcement only came out and it would appear that the granular detail of the strategy is already known. BHD2BFS, I'd be interested to know your source.

Equally, I'd imagine the expansion of frequency on all London routes ex BFS by easyJet is cause for some concern.

May be worth considering, that there would be cost advantage for BA exiting BHD LHR and leaving Aer Lingus to it, who have a base already established, whereas BA must fund hotels every night for crew, and should they launch a Gatwick, more costs in this area. If the sun routes are paying their way, I can see this being a very logical scenario....
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Old 27th May 2015, 09:02
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So IAG have to look after the profits at BHD in all this EI take-over. What if they don't ? What if BA decided slots are more value to them than what Belfast Airport they operate from? Would it not be prudent for BA management to look at reducing rotations, using larger aircraft, maybe later flights thus saving loads of slots but maintaining a service at Belfast? Is Belfast that crictical in the bigger picture that Vuelling would come in and take-over bucket and spade routes at Bhd if EI left? I think satisfying the Irish Government is higher up the list than a handful of flights out of Belfast.
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Old 27th May 2015, 09:13
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E175 operating LPL BHD just now enroute... where is this based surely on a W pattern as no 175 based at BHD?
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Old 27th May 2015, 11:19
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It is Birmingham based, operated on the early morning flight from there, then went to LPL, according to Flight Radar
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Old 27th May 2015, 12:11
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I would say bhd2bfs has just about hit nail on the head. I would agree with the Vueling notion. As interestingly only theLondon routes have been talked about.
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Old 27th May 2015, 18:48
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One thing is certain about this development..higher fares from BHD to Heathrow.
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Old 27th May 2015, 18:57
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Originally Posted by CCR
One thing is certain about this development..higher fares from BHD to Heathrow.
I disagree.
Explain your reasons.
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Old 27th May 2015, 19:09
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I also disagree
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Old 27th May 2015, 19:27
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only is one reason, monopoly to Lhr.
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Old 27th May 2015, 19:33
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Originally Posted by True Blue
only is one reason, monopoly to Lhr.
Look at SNN and ORK. They have a monopoly to LHR, yet no higher prices to LHR than DUB. Ryanair them on their heel, just as Flybe and Easy jet will do in Belfast. (Even Ryanair to an extent at LDY)
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Flybe don't really have anything to offer in competition to London for transfer passengers; City - City flights are timed and priced for business travel to that part of London.

Easyjet may mop-up casual traffic that doesn't care which London terminus but I don't know many people who would book them as the first sector of a long-haul flight, particularly if it involves schlepping from Gatwick to Heathrow.

KLM would be the main competition offering connections through Amsterdam.

So I foresee IAG levelling against KLM and ignoring the others.

Dear help us if KLM ever pull-out and leave IAG as the sole hub-connector.
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